Fertilizing and Watering
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Subject: nitrogen
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keystone 47 |
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what would u use on your pumpkins?
33-00 47-00 both are urea fertilizers
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4/10/2005 9:20:32 PM
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Duster |
San Diego
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urea is pretty strong, be careful with how much you use. I think that organic soil prep with manure, compost, etc is the better way to go for nitrogen. A good prepped patch has all the nitrogen it needs already. Jimmy
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4/10/2005 10:16:54 PM
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CountyKid (PECPG) |
Picton,ON (j.vincent@xplornet.ca)
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The two fertilizers you refer to are 34-0-0 which is Ammonium Nitrate and 46-0-0, which is Urea. Ammonium Nitrate is much quicker release than Urea and is used when you need quick Nitrogen. Even faster than AN is Calcium Nitrate. Many Veg growers use AN and CN is small doses all through the season to gradually feed the crop. Most mixed fertilizers contain Urea Nitrogen. A good all purpose garden fertilizer is something not to high in Nitrogen such as 6-24-24 or 12-24-24, especially if you have applied some manure already. If you cant find blends like that even 10-10-10 is ok. you need to be especially carefull of applying strait Nitrogen products like Urea and AN because you can burn the plants. Personally I use Ammonium Sulfate 21-0-0 because I have a high PH (7.9) and the sulfer helps to lower it. It is also slower release than AN or Urea. I will apply about 5-7 lbs / 1000 ft2. Ín general I agree with Duster. Manure is your best fertilizer, but sometimes mother nature needs a little help.
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4/10/2005 10:42:24 PM
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keystone 47 |
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well ok then what do u use to get them biggggggggg
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4/10/2005 10:52:18 PM
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southern |
Appalachian Mtns.
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Blood meal is a great early spring prep for the soil
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4/10/2005 11:08:37 PM
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tomato grower |
Benton Ky
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I am using urea,calcium nitrate and blood meal.
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4/10/2005 11:18:47 PM
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AGFEVER04 |
Azores,terceira Island
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the problem with using to much is your flowers wont open
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4/11/2005 2:58:31 AM
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AGFEVER04 |
Azores,terceira Island
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at least thats what i have heard
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4/11/2005 5:03:57 AM
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docgipe |
Montoursville, PA
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If good humus possibly above 5% is present and you added manures and or compost, in the fall followed, by a cover crop it is unlikely that you need more nitrogen.
Good low number organic fertilizers like Fertrell's 4-2-4 or even lower is a fine additive if you are not quite sure you are ready to go.
I use about two handfulls of blood meal in the nursery to help the first few weeks, of cool weather, we deal with, in the Northeast.
If your leaves and manures are not quite digested, to your satisfaction, the product Symbex, with molasses added as suggested, by AGRO-K, is an excellent starter.
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4/11/2005 10:08:29 AM
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Tremor |
Ctpumpkin@optonline.net
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Agreed that high Organic Matter soils need little additional Nitrogen. But all benefit from a *small* cool soil temperature push. That side, what sort of Urea is 33% Nitrogen? All Urea is either 46% or 47% N as built. If the analysis is lowered to 33% it is either by the addition of a coating to slow down the release or some other ingredient or filler material.
Need a label or more information to comment on this one.
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4/11/2005 9:01:47 PM
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Perriman |
Warwood
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I'm using bloodmeal and fish ferts. Too much N has caused me problems with aborts and disease in the past. Slow and easy does it. Don
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4/12/2005 8:29:38 PM
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docgipe |
Montoursville, PA
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Perriman...........Great season opener program. Fish averages about 6% Nitrogen that is slow release working for the whole season. Blood Meal is about 12% Nitrogen but it goes, to work, the minute it is watered in. It also leaches out faster than it gets converted, by bacteria and used, by the plants. I only use the blood meal very early in the spring....starting two weeks prior to planting...even a bit earlier. This gives the bacteria a chance to get working on it and actually warm up the patch a degree or two which enhances biological growth where it is working.
I have Alfalfa Meal to add the natural growth stimulants and the slow release nitrogen for the ballance, of the season......not to mention the manures and composts added last fall and the following cover crop just put down this week.
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4/13/2005 10:57:51 AM
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Ron Rahe (uncron1@hotmail.com) |
Cincinnati,OH
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I tried an experiment on a zucchini last year. I overdosed the ground with a high N fertilizer. The plant grew like crazy but it stopped flowering for 6 weeks.
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4/13/2005 7:35:50 PM
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