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Walton N.y.

for those of you who are looking to increase calcium levels in your soil without changing ph (i must give bohica credit for telling me about this 2 years ago) but soil logic makes a product called liquid gypsum and it works well 1 quart watered into 1000 sq.ft. will raise your soil calcium levels starting in about a week (on gallon orders they have included a liquafeed style applicator that you screw on to a hose in the past) check out their website or call them at 800 655-8451 and ask for Ana and tell her randy and deb sent you

3/25/2009 9:01:45 AM

Salem, OR

Do you happen to have the name of their website?

3/26/2009 3:15:23 PM

Www.extremepumpkinstore.com

soil logic

3/26/2009 3:46:08 PM

Walton N.y.

soillogic.com they also sell a few other products that you might be interested in as well

3/26/2009 4:30:53 PM

valparaiso, in

Thanks for the info. This should be cheaper then buying the 40lbs. bags I normally buy.

3/26/2009 5:17:44 PM

Paradise Mountain, New York

I see it contains 25% Calcium Chloride. Gypsum is Calcium Sulfate. Now are these both the same or in different. Maybe Tremor could answer this.

3/26/2009 10:28:39 PM

Walton N.y.

it is cheaper than buying bagged gypsum and they do make deals on shipping .... there is a difference in the calciums and i don't remember all that they said but dry gypsum makes those pellets because they add a small amount of sulfur and that starts forming the pellet while calcium cloride is flowable and works faster and the salt levels are low and compare to the amount of sulfur you get from dry gypsum - it takes almost 1lb of sulfur to change soil ph from 7 to 6 per 1000sq ft and i asked the dry gypsum folks about how much sulfur they add and it was around 1lb per ton of gypsum

3/27/2009 7:56:26 AM

interesting post randy. this wouldnt be the type of stuff used in brine or what road crews use to treat ice?

the gypsum i use says about 16% sulpher

http://literature.usg.com/pdf/IG631.pdf
did you use spring or fall or both and how did your soil test change if anything

3/28/2009 2:21:23 PM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

Calcium Chloride (CaCL) is a salt..and so is Calcium Sulfate (CaSO4)So that One Calcium atom, One Sulfur atom, and 4 Oxygen. Sulfur is better than Chloride in the end.

Here is a good link for Gypsum.
http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/pubs/plantsci/soilfert/sf1321w.htm

3/28/2009 2:42:36 PM

Walton N.y.

it's not the same calcium cloride used by road crews to unfreeze culverts or keep dust down the soil logic folks have been selling their products on the west coast for a number of years to the golf couse folks and i called 2 places that sell pettetized gypsum 1 here in N.Y. the other in Pa. and they both told me that they only used a very small amount of sulfer to create the pellets but that's not to say that gypsum from other areas could contain more or less sulfur or other ingreadients (i don't buy alfalfa pettets in my area all brands contain 16% salt) the liquid gypsum has worked for me and the folks at soil logic were willing to answer all my questions about the products and then there were the economics of what to use 1000lbs gypsum shipped to my door over $300 or 2.5 gallon jug shipped to my door = ton of gypsum for $60

3/29/2009 9:57:03 AM