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Montoursville, PA

This is the product that got the attention of many growers at Niagra just a few weeks ago. The most difficult point for me to grasp is that the product with one application at planting time treats the whole plant for its entire growing period. Handled like pepper you sprinkle live positive fungi spores in your planting hole. The spores when contacting root colonize and support the plant for the entire growing period. You may read more about it at: growstuffplus.com The spore does not go bad. It just lays there until roots contact it. Nothing else need be done. It helps build more and better roots that take up available fertilizers more easily. Use per year not cost prohibitive.

4/28/2003 1:27:17 PM

Chico, Ca

I will be trying that along with ray fungus which goes after
the molds that cause wilt and mildew.Also will use preditory nemotodes,and azadirachtin (insect growth regulator). Another good source for these type of products is WWW.Greenfire.net. I will be keeping the use of nasty chemicals to an absolute minimum this year.

Robert

4/28/2003 2:15:24 PM

Caceres, mid west of Spain

I am trying Miniplug, an endomycorrhiza complex, in the pot mix, and Compete, a Trichoderma concentrade, to water the patch. Both from Plant Health Care. We'll see.

Don

4/29/2003 12:31:51 AM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

I am trying a product called MYKE. I know it does not like any chemical pesticides or fertilizers.

4/29/2003 12:59:32 AM

Appalachian Mtns.

I'm using miccorhizae and trichodermas spores myself, both for root systems.
Some feel that Micorr is a new scheme to get consumer dollars. I've been told there's plenty in most soils anyway, so more isn't better.
I'm still going to be using them tho'.

4/29/2003 5:33:41 PM

In the shade - PDX, OR

I'd like to know more about the resistance or tolerance level of Mycorrhizae to fertilizer.
I saw another post that they do not like high doses of Phosphorus.
Basic premise is that this is an organic alternative to increase the plant's root system.

Any one have additional info on this?
Thanks

4/29/2003 5:51:45 PM

Key West, FL

Someone told me this, I thought it was true, You guys arent useing chemical ferts with these Mycorrhizae are you? Isnt that just a waste of money because the chemicals kill all the bacteria?

4/29/2003 5:56:06 PM

Forestville, NY

ben is right ---1 bag of 10 10 10 will kill all the bugs in 10.ooo gallons of water--chloride is chlorine and is most city water systums---good stuff----

4/29/2003 8:46:24 PM

Appalachian Mtns.

Just where is this phosphorous/ fert info coming from? Gotta link? Something besides second-hand information? I'd like to know more...

4/30/2003 3:10:58 PM

Montoursville, PA

Hey there Southern...The very first post has the data you seek.

4/30/2003 5:47:46 PM

Appalachian Mtns.

Thanks Dwaine

4/30/2003 9:44:59 PM

Sask, Canada

Southern:

Been there done that, if you want the info talk to Thomas Giannou at www.tandjenterprises.com "John Evans" is one of the inventors of some of the product you can find at the website, and he does grow giant veggies. But for giant pumpkin and the amount of product you would need you had better be very rich. Fert does kill the Mycorrhizae if applied in phos greater than 3 I believe the number was.

But check with Thomas he's very knowledgeable I used it about 4 yrs ago on my thunder creek tomatoes but didn't find any difference from my normal way of growing giant tomatoes.

TTYL
Ernie
Giant Veggies

5/3/2003 12:58:59 AM

Appalachian Mtns.

Thanks guys...I also found more info through Google. With what I've read the last several days, I've decided to forgo the 5-20-10 water soluble starter fert I planned on using early on.

I put out 100 lbs of Bone Meal yesterday on the plant sites and plan to put out another 200 lbs. or so. The organic forms of phosphorous don't kill or suppress the micorrhizae.

5/3/2003 7:27:25 AM

Montoursville, PA

If one deals with SVB using a systemic and follow up supporting insecticides plus fungicides one better be willing to do fungi maintenance and rebuilding. The treatment of the plant with Plant Success Super Endo Mycorrhizae 100K will cost less than ten dollars a year based on a three year spore storage shelf life. This number is based on a two plant patch. Other things like over tilling destroy fungi also. Trusting maintenance items rarely shows up with a noticable change in the patch rather they help maintain a steady supply of positive fungi in this instance. This might be related to taking a multi vitamin pill to support basic human health. Most likely only someone with a fixable imballance would see a major change.

The interesting thing here is a question. Assuming we know what the product does and agree on that how then would we know if we needed or did not need this support?

5/3/2003 8:26:06 AM