Fertilizing and Watering
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Subject: Determining the best fish and kelp fertilizer
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Grower Steve |
Rochester, NY
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Make sure you get a hydrolyzate not emulsion, processed at low temperature. Hormones, enzymes, amino acids, vitamins and protiens are harmed with high heat. Look for a high oil content. The best preservative is food grade phosphoric acid. Alternatives include, industrial phosphoric acid and sulfuric acid. Make sure the fish source is from the ocean not fresh water, Ocean fish contain more oils and trace minerals with low or no heavy metals. Ascophyllum nodosum is widely regarded as the best kelp source. The same type of cold processing is important to not denature all the benefits. Lastly, it should be filtered through a 150 mesh filter to keep it from clogging sprayers.
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3/9/2014 1:45:18 PM
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ArvadaBoy |
Midway, UT
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Thanks Steve for posting this. It is sometimes hard to tell what is best.
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3/9/2014 3:53:46 PM
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Engel's Great Pumpkins and Carvings |
Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)
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While I agree with the hydrolyzed vs emulsion. The fish source being ocean I do not feel is completely relevant. Many of the fresh water fish used( Salmon, Carp) are an excellent source of nutrients and trace minerals
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3/9/2014 4:30:17 PM
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Grower Steve |
Rochester, NY
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While all fish do contain minerals that are benficial to plants there is a big difference in the quality of fish/kelp fertilizers. I want the best on the market. Lake or river fish do not contain the minerals or oil density of ocean fish. Fresh water fish also tend to be exposed to more pollutants and heavy metals.
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3/9/2014 7:50:10 PM
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yardman |
Mnt.pleasant ,tennessee
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been making homemade fish for 10 years & have tried store stuff aint no comparison to the natural fish in a bucket.them yellow oil drops thats the good stuff & you lose the oils times it gets used for food & scraps turned into ferts in a bottle
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3/9/2014 9:19:23 PM
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*Old *Man* |
Sheridan . NY
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Schafer Organic Fish ->Is OMRI & NOP Certified -Is Bio Alive Hydolyzed whole fish-- I have use it for 10 years --- Go to www.SF-Organics.com - OR If your in the Western NY area --we handle it --email or call me ---craig@lembkefarm.com or 716 640 5614 craig
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3/10/2014 9:11:35 AM
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WiZZy |
President - GPC
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*Old*Man*... Good to hear from you!!
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3/10/2014 9:49:38 AM
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*Old *Man* |
Sheridan . NY
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I haven't kicked the bucket yet all good with you-??
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3/10/2014 12:38:00 PM
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Grower Steve |
Rochester, NY
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Read the labels everyone.
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3/11/2014 10:24:22 PM
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PumpkinBrat |
Paradise Mountain, New York
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Why not just buy Liquid Hydrolyzed fish for $ 29.95 a gallon with free shipping
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3/11/2014 11:47:42 PM
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Richard |
Minnesota
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My opinion. Sea fish are in seawater, filled with every mineral there is, the fish are a product of this. Lake, stream, river, pond are fresh water, there is nothing in it, no minerals, nothing. More info here seaagri.com. So if you use ocean fish you are getting more nutrients, minerals for your plants.
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3/12/2014 3:49:52 AM
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baitman |
Central Illinois
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If you want asian carp, just come up my way there crowding out the striper
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3/12/2014 8:46:24 AM
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*Old *Man* |
Sheridan . NY
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OK --What everyone has their own favorite ----I just did comparison on all fish hYd fish fert--there is very little difference in minerals or content in any product --it is what your happy with and works for you
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3/12/2014 8:56:56 AM
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Grower Steve |
Rochester, NY
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Nicely said Richard. Anyone want to PM me and we can discuss without anyone getting their favorite insulted.
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3/12/2014 4:13:21 PM
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Fissssh |
Simi valley, ca
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Neptune's harvest will not tell you this'' but you can find 55 gallons for 300$ pluss tax ,, 5.50 a gallon !!
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3/22/2014 11:24:35 AM
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Fissssh |
Simi valley, ca
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AG store , you must pick up yourself !
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3/22/2014 11:25:56 AM
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So.Cal.Grower |
Torrance, Ca.
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Nice to see you posting Glenn!
We gonna see you this year at Pumpkinmania?;)
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3/22/2014 12:46:51 PM
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pg3 |
Lodi, California
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About fish emultion V.S. fish hydrolysate: I would prefer to use both. Sure, fish hydrolysate is a higher quality product in many perspectives, but is does not contain a high N to P, K ratio, so it does not supply sufficient nitrogen when it is needed. Therefore, I would like to use fish emultion during the plant growth stage, and use fish hydrolysate as an all year round sort of fertilizer, due to its fairly balanced N, P, and k levels. This is just my oppinion, being that both products should be used baised on the current condition of the plant, and, despite the fact that both products are make from the same base product, I think that these two items should be treated as two completely seperate items.
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3/22/2014 5:42:53 PM
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Engel's Great Pumpkins and Carvings |
Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)
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So fresh water does not have minerals? Guess that water softener removing all those minerals from my hard water was a hoax dreamed up by the water softener people...
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3/22/2014 11:11:52 PM
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Richard |
Minnesota
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Fresh water maybe 10 minerals, varying state to state, ocean water 85. Like a Vikes Packers game, Vikes 85-Pack 10. (I did'nt just say that!)
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3/23/2014 1:12:17 AM
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Richard |
Minnesota
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Not really though! Vikes had best player in the leaque, alot of probowlers and still had one of the worst records in the NFL, don't know wht's going on behind the scene!
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3/25/2014 4:24:45 AM
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*Old *Man* |
Sheridan . NY
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Schafer Hyd Fish $300.00--a 55gal- Pick up here
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4/9/2014 7:36:59 AM
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