Fertilizing and Watering
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Subject: Food grade kelp, is it ok ?
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baitman |
Central Illinois
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San Francisco Herb Co has food grade kelp for $2.80 per pound, do you think this would be comparable to a fertilizer grade?I dont know what process it goes through to be "food grade"
Even with the shipping charges it the cheapest I have found, their email to me
Dear Henry Yes. Our Kelp Powder is used for fertilizer even though it's food grade.
http://www.sfherb.com/store/botanical-herbs-bulk,category.asp
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12/3/2014 4:31:31 PM
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Iowegian |
Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com
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Baitman, I get my kelp from Welter Seed and Honey for $44.00 per 50# bag. $0.88 per pound. I live close enough that I can drive there to pick it up, along with my cover crops, deer food plot and sweet corn seed. They can ship it to you and probably be a lot cheaper than food grade. There website is www.welterseed.com. You can't order online, but they list toll free numbers to call for shipping costs and to place an order. They even pay half of the shipping for large seed orders, so if you have grower friends you could make a group order and save some money. They are real experts on cover crops. They have been using them on their farms for around 30 years.
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12/3/2014 5:08:04 PM
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baitman |
Central Illinois
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I've always been searching for kelp powder,welterseed sells kelp meal,which is OK but don't you have to use a lot more meal over powder
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12/3/2014 5:58:32 PM
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baitman |
Central Illinois
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My main use would be for foliar spray
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12/3/2014 6:36:34 PM
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awesome1 |
England, essex
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have a look on youtube, you will see people use it for general plants, not sure if food grade would get any different treatment to other products available to us though?
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12/4/2014 7:25:00 AM
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baitman |
Central Illinois
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I am not worried about it damaging the plants just dont know if it is lacking in something do to any processing it goes through, but I need to research the Sodium chloride level and if it is water soluble
Ascophyllum nodosum Origin USA (Atlantic Ocean) Uses Natural health Pkg Size 1 Lb Volume approx 3-4 cups Comments This is Atlantic Kelp harvested off the coast of Maine; known as Norwegian kelp, knotted kelp, knotted wrack or egg wrack. It is rich in iodine and complex minerals, and has a salty taste due to the presence of macro and micronutrients. Used mainly as a food supplement, but also used as plant food/fertilizer. Naturally contains 4-8% Sodium chloride (salt). Note Powder is good for encapsulation. We also carry Kelp Granules, which are similar in size to salt crystals. Ingredients Kelp
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12/4/2014 9:08:48 AM
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Slim |
Whitehall Montana
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kelp is also used for cattle feed and may be bought cheaper yet at a farm store.Call ahead to see if they have it in stock or can order it for you.It is the same product you buy for pumpkins
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12/4/2014 11:00:50 AM
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Iowegian |
Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com
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Welter sells the cattle feed grade. I figure that if it isn't broken down a lot to start, it will release the nutrients slower and over a longer time period. That way you don't get a big shot at first and then have to keep re-applying it through the season.
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12/4/2014 11:08:29 AM
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Darren C (Team Big-N-Orange) |
Omaha, Ne.
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I would stick with the stuff made for plants when it comes to fuller. Stuff made for humans maybe weaker just to make it more palatable so they don't puke. But you can always track down the phone number and call them and ask them.
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12/4/2014 11:18:10 AM
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Tad12 |
Seattle, WA
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Is it kelp "powder" or kelp "extract?"
Kelp powder I'm assuming is just kelp meal that has been finely ground down. Kelp meal should run around $70 for a 50 lb bag or we sell it online for $2.25/lb in small quantities.
Kelp extract is totally different. Much higher in K, 100% soluble. I can post a spec sheet on the kelp extract I carry/use if that would help for comparison. The application rates on the kelp extract are 1/4-1/2 tsp per gallon so a little goes a long way.
For kelp meal when I'm making nutrient teas, I use a much higher rate of 1-2 cups per 5 gal. bucket.
I would check your local feed store for the kelp meal. For kelp extract, you want cold water processed ascophyllum nodosum.
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12/4/2014 12:12:36 PM
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Tad12 |
Seattle, WA
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For amending soil, the kelp meal is superior. For foliar applications, the kelp extract works really well, though you have to keep in mind the higher K levels.
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12/4/2014 12:13:27 PM
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baitman |
Central Illinois
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All I want is a kelp product for foiliar thats under $4.00 per pound delivered, I can get it that price if you catch the good sales at kelp4less actually its $4.40 a pound for 20 pounds that would last me 2 years if I add some to the planting holes too
At San Francisco Herb Co they sell kelp granular $2.80 pound
This is Atlantic kelp harvested off the coast of Maine, known as Norwegian kelp, knotted kelp, knotted wrack or egg wrack. It is rich in iodine and complex minerals, and has a salty taste due to the presence of macro and micronutrients. This is granulated (like a coarse sugar), so it can be sprinkled on foods and used like table salt. Used mainly as a food supplement, but also used as plant food/fertilizer. Naturally contains 4-8% sodium cloride (salt).
and they sell kelp powder $2.80 This is Atlantic Kelp harvested off the coast of Maine; known as Norwegian kelp, knotted kelp, knotted wrack or egg wrack. It is rich in iodine and complex minerals, and has a salty taste due to the presence of macro and micronutrients. Used mainly as a food supplement, but also used as plant food/fertilizer. Naturally contains 4-8% Sodium chloride (salt). Note Powder is good for encapsulation.
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12/4/2014 4:24:24 PM
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Tad12 |
Seattle, WA
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You can use either of those kelps for a foliar, but they are a bit expensive (they are essentially kelp meal).
The kelp extract is more expensive per lb, but the application rates are much much lower, making it cheaper per application (provided you can handle the extra K).
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12/15/2014 12:35:51 PM
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Tad12 |
Seattle, WA
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Nature’s Essence Soluble Seaweed Specifications Derived from Ascophyllum Nodosum
Nature’s Essence SEP Typical Characteristics Appearance Brown/Black Granular Odor Marine Seaweed Odor Total Solids 92%-95% Moisture 5%-8% Organic Matter 45%-50% Inorganic Matter 40%-45% Solubility 100% in water Fiber Less than 1% Oil Less than 1% Typical Analysis Aluminum Less than 10 ppm Boron 50-100 ppm Calcium 1.5%-2.0% Cobalt 3.5-6.5 ppm Copper 20-45 ppm Iodine 250-500 ppm Iron 250-1000 ppm Magnesium 2000-3000 ppm Manganese 15-30 ppm Nitrogen 0.8%-1.2% Phosphorous 100-200 ppm Potassium 15.0%-17.0% Sodium 3.0%-4.5% Sulfur 1.0%-2.0%
Growth Stimulants: SEP contains natural Cytokinins, Auxins, Gibberellins, and Betaines.
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12/15/2014 12:36:16 PM
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Tad12 |
Seattle, WA
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That's the extract. You can see the K is 15-17%
Whereas kelp meal is typically 1-0-2. Based on the pricing you listed I'm assuming that the products they are selling are food grade kelp meal.
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12/15/2014 12:38:24 PM
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baitman |
Central Illinois
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Thanks Tad is 3.0%-4.5% Sodium typical of seaweed products
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12/16/2014 8:15:52 AM
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Tad12 |
Seattle, WA
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I've found kelp meal like Acadian to be around 9% if I remember correctly (I was just looking at the bag yesterday)
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12/16/2014 4:55:15 PM
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