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Think Big

Commack, NY

ive used this in the past (very sparingly might i add since i cant deal with the smell) and with all the stuff lately about poultry farms and stuff, i was wondering if you guys thought it was a bad idea or not? btw, isnt there something that you can catch from it? causing blindness maybe? i remember hearing about it, buti cant find info on it anywhere..
scott

2/24/2004 1:52:22 PM

One Dude

Carrollton, Ga.

Hi Scott,
What stuff lately about poultry farms are you talking about?
One Dude

2/24/2004 4:48:57 PM

docgipe

Montoursville, PA

Hey Scott.....You can catch directional chickenitis from it. You smell that once you can't forget chicken. The only cure is an inoculation of KFC for sure followed by more at ten day intervals.

Not to worry. The disease has reoccurring tenancies. The cure remains the same. More KFC.

2/24/2004 4:59:32 PM

LIpumpkin

Long Island,New York

Boy, that story your Mom told you about going blind seems to have really hit home Scott.......

2/24/2004 5:23:27 PM

Big Kahuna 25

Ontario, Canada.

Doc chickenitis is bad. I have it now and then. I had a bad case of white chickenitis which is better than the dark kind. It can lead to stomach expandus. Lets be careful out there.

2/24/2004 5:40:17 PM

Stan

Puyallup, WA

You guys just "crack me up"! :>)

2/24/2004 6:22:32 PM

docgipe

Montoursville, PA

Carefull does it Stan or the "yolk" may be on you. :)

2/24/2004 7:53:28 PM

(Doeski)Punkins

Vermont Green MTN State

Chickenitis.... Ya I got that from those deep fried chicken fingers ya eat at Chinese restaurants. You would think I just pasted them to my body!!!!

No... But seriously Salmonella or campylobacter is probably what you are thinking of, it can be spread though droppings. I don’t know if it could be in the bags of manure though you would think that stuff was processed huh?

2/24/2004 7:56:46 PM

docgipe

Montoursville, PA

OK....back to the important stuff. I will stand to be corrected but on a 1000 sq.ft. patch I have calculated that six five gallon buckets moderately full of fresh chicken poop is about all one would want to till in twice a year as part of the fertilization program. Any excess should go through the composing program. It should not be counted on to add much humus unless the bedding is quite heavy by volume.

Keep your humus targeted on manures and composts and elements of composts like leaves. Use all the leaves you can reasonably get chewed into the fall patch prep for spring. Always plant a green manure crop or cover crop to be tilled under in the spring.

2/24/2004 8:01:14 PM

Think Big

Commack, NY

chickenitis LOL.........

2/24/2004 8:17:15 PM

Engel's Great Pumpkins and Carvings

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

Scott is right there is a disease caused from handling dried chicken manure. It comes from the dust. I cant find any info on it right now. Thats why I try to keep my coop clean.

2/25/2004 1:13:07 AM

Think Big

Commack, NY

i think i found it last night.......there might be more than one, but Histoplasmosis is one that you can get from chicken manure.

2/25/2004 8:56:57 AM

Tremor

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Chicken manure is difficult (read expensive) to properly (read aerobically) compost unless it is thoroughly mixed with other lighter weight materials. Most of the folks who package & sell chicken manure based fertilizers aren't doing this. Thus it smells very bad.

So it's up to us to mix it with compost & let the microbes do their thing.

We had to give up selling chicken poop fertilizer back in '94 due primarily to the stench. Pro applicators liked the way it worked just fine. But the poor home owners had to be on vacation when it was applied. We're talking almost a week of really foul odors.

That stuff was 10% Nitrogen. But I've noticed the guaranteed analysis of the more costly aerobically composted poops is only 2% Nitrogen. So a lot of that N gets consumed during the operation.

Steve

2/25/2004 9:34:47 PM

Billy K

Mastic Beach, New York

didn't a rock singer get sick from the dust of chicken poop...(i think about 7 or 8 years ago)he lived on chicken farm?

2/25/2004 9:41:38 PM

docgipe

Montoursville, PA

The world is full of fowl smells and just plain ornery stuff so common sense and care must be taken when we handle anything....not just chicken poop. Simply keep it damp and there is no airborn dust, to deal with.

Yes chicken poop will check in at about 10% N so the ratio of browns should be at seven to ten to one. My six buckets full got mixed with three bushels of human hair, two or three wheelbarrows full of leaves and maybe a yard or so of half finished compost. The pile temperature was back up to 140 degrees in one day. This is while the outside temperature is still not hitting fifty degrees in the daytime and we freeze up at night. My patch was under ninety degrees and falling when I made this entry three days ago. I could do this because I had a foot or more of straw over the pile and then a tarp covered with snow. That was good insulation that kept the pile cooking all winter.
In three weeks I will turn it again. This pile will be able to go on the early spring patch.

2/25/2004 10:39:14 PM

Water (John)

Midway City, California

I Have a bag of chicken Poop in my yard. I read all the information on both sides an could not find any warning Notice or health notes

2/26/2004 6:51:41 PM

docgipe

Montoursville, PA

Hey ...send a cup full down to city hall. If someone sticks a finger into it and claims it shit tell them it's knowlege dust and they are getting smarter already. If anyone can find a problem with chicken poop I'm sure the California dogooders will find a way to outlaw it's use.

3/2/2004 4:20:04 PM

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