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Omaha, NE (N41-15-42 )

I was looking at some material on Symbex from Agro-K, and it looks alot like the Liquicomp/Ceres product mix from Bio, Inc. I had used Liquicomp last year and was planning on using it with Ceres this year, but I'm trying to figure out what if any differences there are between these products. Does anyone have experience with one or more of these products or their alternatives that they'd be willing to share?

Thanks!

Matt

3/11/2004 1:01:16 AM

Montoursville, PA

I have used Symbex for two years. It saved my butt real good last Spring. Craig Lembke wrote the Rx to clean up a horrible carry over of undigested elements of compost. I thought the season was lost....wet cold and I could not get the darn stuff to digest. Symbex plus fish, kelp and molasses got me out of trouble with three applications about three weeks apart.

Craig uses it in his nursery to digest grape vine spring trimings that are just placed on the ground and sprayed with Symbex. A little slower than leaves and half done compost for sure but my goodness what a labor saver.

That's all I know except that I know two other growers that led me to it who think it is top shelf material...very good indeed.

3/11/2004 9:50:51 PM

canal winchester ohio

I wonder if Symbex would be good as a application to break down the thatch in my yard ?

3/12/2004 9:43:44 AM

Garden State Pumpkins

Sure it would Huffer!!! so would a beer bath with soda....it excites the little suckers into a feeding frenzy!
sorta sounds like Niagara Falls to pumpkin growers!!
Chuck

3/12/2004 12:08:46 PM

Montoursville, PA

Yes...but I bet ya it can all go bye byessssssss at less expense. Thatch is well understood and well documented as to cause and cures. Let Google boggle your mind for a couple hours. That will in most cases come down to feeding your biological side, supplying air and water, cutting off sunlight by raising the height of the cut to three or four inches, leaving the cut grass in the lawn growing as a mulch and supply of natural nitrogen....and stopping the injection of broadcast or over all placement of poisons. They absolutely are not needed in any turf care.

3/12/2004 12:12:57 PM

Eugene, OR

I worked for a turfgrass farm for about 6 years before moving up here. We grew everything from Seashore Paspalum to St. Augustine, including the patented El Toro variety. The best way to take care of the thatch is to rent a dethatcher. They're very easy to use and do a hell of a job. The dethatcher has a bunch of vertical blades that basically rip the thatch out of the ground as they spin, substantially thinning the grass. In a few weeks, the grass will have filled back in and it'll be like a brand new lawn.

No more "sponginess," just a nice looking lawn that's much easier to mow without worrying about scalping it all the time.

3/12/2004 1:34:00 PM

Sheridan . NY

Agro-k symbex yep--it will do everything above that everyone has asked about--

3/17/2004 9:04:36 PM