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virginia

Has anybody use this stuff before. Its 14 dollars a yard,and its real black. It has a pH 7.3, Organic 42%percent.It smells like black dirt. They told me it was safe to use on gardens

2/24/2002 3:57:43 PM

porterville, calif.

I don,t think i would use it on anything that i plan on eating. Im not really sure but going to do some research on it...Greg

2/24/2002 4:15:40 PM

Midway City, California

John Boy, I work at a County Treatment Plant where we process Human Waste. All of the human waste is treated with either chlorine gas or peroxide to kill the Bacteria
(e-coli). It goes through 3 or 4 steps depending on the process being used. The last step removes all the moisture from the waste,loaded into 18 wheeler dump trucks, driven to farms or sent to a plant for packaging and selling. At the farms it is used as a soil addment. Usually water is added to the dry waste and then pumped to the areas being treated. Most of the stuff used on the farms is for Cotton.
I would not use it on anything I was going to eat. The treatment plant that I work for treats enough water and solid waste to fill a Major Leaoue Baseball Park. Want more info send me a e-mail and I will find some more info on it.
Try this internet site ocsd,com I do not visit it to often
But you may be able to get some information from it.
=====Water

2/24/2002 6:05:40 PM

Midway City, California

Whoops Site address should be ocsd.com

2/24/2002 6:07:36 PM

Liverpool , England

Yo John b,
They banned the use of this stuff in Britain many years ago...don't know why...always looked good to me.

Alun

2/24/2002 7:40:19 PM

virginia

They gave me a brochure on it,and this is what it says. MIXING dewatered solids from the treatment plant are mixed with woodchips to reduced the moisture content,increase porosity and provide structural stability for building compost piles. COMPOSTING......the solids woodchips mixture is stacked in piles on a paved pad.Perforated pipes located beneath the piles are connected to blowers which control the air flow in the compost piles to maintain an aerobic(oxygen-rich) environment.Aerobic microorganisms in these piles biologically stabilize the dewaterd solids. Heat generated by these organisms raises pile temperatures to above 131 degrees for several days, which is sufficent to destory disease causing organisms. CURING.....The compost is then cured to allow for further stabilization , and then the final compost product is screened. Thanks for the reply you all.

2/24/2002 8:36:44 PM

Farmington, Utah

JB, the year I used it i grew our state record of 633
Kenny

2/24/2002 9:06:53 PM

Ankeny, Iowa

Hey john boy I used that stuff in 2000 and it worked well for my pumpkins.

2/24/2002 9:34:18 PM

Deer Park WA

I have heard that it contians heavy metals and could cause a toxic build up of them over time. I'm not an expert but I think we will just stick to herbivor poop.....

2/24/2002 11:27:20 PM

Western Pa.

Gads is correct. Since this "stuff", (also sold in stores under the name milorganite) is "concentrated", it tends to contain a build up of "heavy metals". The bacteria may be dead, but consider what else goes down the drain besides human waste! What about "contributions" from hospitals and all types of industry! Jerry Rose grew on a bed of septic tank sludge, I'd check with him about "toxicity" when he hosts a chat next month!

kilr

2/24/2002 11:46:05 PM

Farmington, Utah

All biosolids have to pass EPA and Federal guide lines. They have to remove the heavy metals and toxins. In fact they are basically mining poop! They say they are safe for root crops, but I don't think I would!!!
Kenny

2/24/2002 11:57:00 PM

Choctaw, OK

anyone use malorganite?????? is that safe to use?

case

2/24/2002 11:59:22 PM

porterville, calif.

I used to work for a nursery, we sold milorganite there. On the bag it said to use it on Lawns only, not for food crops.
I beleive it is the metal buildup is why you don,t want to use it on food crops... Greg

2/25/2002 2:29:22 AM

South Hill, Virginia

I think Stan Pugh used it last year (according to the 2001 Holland video). He is an active member on this site so you may want to ask him.

2/25/2002 10:46:14 AM

canal winchester ohio

I've never used it ( Com-Till), but some of the locals in Circleville has. I'll contact a few & find out some things for you. Or better yet they could answer themselves. Come on guys I know you read the list help us out here......Paul

2/25/2002 11:01:34 AM

virginia

thanks to all of you, for helping me out. It also says compost contains 30-40% lime.

2/25/2002 1:02:28 PM

Long Island,New York

I wonder how you pronounce Stan's last name (Pugh)......might be just the guy to talk to about this topic.....LOL (just kidding Stan)

2/25/2002 4:28:54 PM

Utah

I know that a plant out here in WA produces the stuff...
that Stan and others have used the stuff from it.
it's called Taygrow... or something like that.

they say it is fine for edible garden plants.
but I read that there are different grades or levels
each must conform to government standards...

just double check to make sure they say it is safe
for edible garden plants.

2/28/2002 6:10:24 PM

virginia

They told me that it was safe to use on gardens,but i just wanted you all opinions on that stuff. Thanks alot. Greg

2/28/2002 8:23:02 PM

Puyallup, WA

Hi....just found this post! So here is the "low down" on the bio-solids that I use in my patch. Pumpkin roots just love this stuff! Go to this web page to learn all about TAGRO! http://www.ci.tacoma.wa.us/tagro/

2/28/2002 11:47:10 PM

virginia

Thanks so much stan. Greg....

3/1/2002 11:07:21 AM

virginia

Hey stan, i can't go to that web site,I don't know why. Greg.....

3/1/2002 3:28:38 PM

Sloughhouse, CA

My uncle and cousin used waste from the sewer treaqtment plant in Lubbock, Texas. They grew cotton. They also had lots of tomatoes that came up by themselves.

3/3/2002 11:01:29 PM

porterville, calif.

My instincts tell me not to use bio waste. Especially on food crops. There is so many other things out there that is organic and safe to use. I just don,t think sewage sludge and other bio waste is good to have around. But we all will have our own choices to make on this. You just have to do what is right for you. Just if you use this to improve your gardens I hope it is the right choice...Greg C.

3/4/2002 1:00:30 AM

Midway City, California

OK JohnBoy it is time for you to make a decision. Will you use or not use Bio Waste. Give us your Great Knowledges and Understanding on Bio Solids.

3/4/2002 6:04:00 PM

Tipp City, Ohio

I read an interesting article in the Dayton paper the other day. It was talking about the hazards of using any type of manure or bio waste. For instance they cited an outbreak of E. Coli in 95 or 96 with lettuce, they traced it back to the "Farm" that grew it. It was located next to a large cattle herd and they felt that the waste products from the cattle contaminated the water supply to the lettuce. I think it was just a way for the paper to complain about something about things that are "organically grown"....Tom

3/4/2002 8:27:47 PM

virginia

I believe that I'm going to use it.I believe its no worst then what we inhale in for air, with all the vehicles,planes,power plants, and can food.You never know what you eating these days. Greg......

3/5/2002 6:31:07 PM

Covington, WA

I use the Tagro mix produced by the Tacoma WA wastewater treatment plant. It is a modern facility that uses the dewatered biosolids, (treated sludge)sand and sawdust. This facility has no problems with heavy metals as the stormwater runoff from streets is a separate system. No heavy metals from autos and truck get into it. This stuff tests out comparable to chicken manure without the smell. Its easy to hand and the plants all love it. The source should have literature from the state department of agriculture stating what uses it is approved for.

3/16/2002 6:55:33 PM

Western Pa.

Tiller,

You have no industries or hospitals in your area? Stormwater isn't the problem , it's what others dump down their floor drains and sanitary sewers. Believe what you want to believe.

kilr

3/16/2002 8:14:26 PM

Covington, WA

Sure we have those, Tacoma has a very modern facility, everything is heat treated and the health department tests this stuff routinely. None of those pathogens survive the process. This stuff is a lot safer than getting the composted manure from the local dairy farm which isn't being checked by anyone except for sanitation in the milk processing areas.

3/21/2002 7:16:13 PM

Montoursville, PA

We have a huge pile of this black gold you speak of along our beltway. See it daily. Watch an overly fat groundgog who seems to like the thousands of tomato plants on the surface. He sorta waddles about. When he turns to please those who named him poopy he has a shit eating grin on his face. He may have this source of fresh produce.

10/3/2002 11:31:56 AM