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sunflower_info

West Amwell, NJ

My friend, Jesse and I are growing Giant Amaranth (Amaranthus Australis) this year. Jesse put up some videos of his amaranth on youtube. His Amaranth are growing in the Poughkeepsie, NY area. He started them inside in the winter to give them a head start. His largest stem is an incredible 35 inches in circumference. I measured it myself! Here are links to the videos:

video of 35 inch stem circumference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBedJgJrIq8

video of giant amaranths in large pots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bD4VzWU_aQ

*note* he incorrectly stated that these amaranth are from Australia, which is not true. These amaranth are from South Eastern United States.



7/9/2007 3:30:37 PM

JMattW

Omaha, NE (N41-15-42 )

Very impressive. Are those specially bred to be that large (like we all do with AG's, or are these store bought seeds?

7/9/2007 5:09:52 PM

Tremor

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Wicked cool. The guy said he's in Poughkeepsie. Maybe Big ToM P. knows him?

There is a cultivar called "australis". Could this be it?

7/9/2007 9:01:50 PM

sunflower_info

West Amwell, NJ

The seeds were originally obtain by me from the USDA. You can not buy these seeds anywhere. It's a wild amaranth that grows in wetland in the south east of the United States, such as Florida. I found out about them when I when I tried to submit an Amaranthus Cruentus for a world record, and I realized that the old record was beat.

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records/natural_world/plant_world/tallest_amaranthus.aspx

Basically, the USDA has the current record for Amaranth now. I found out what accession was responsible for the world record and got seeds from them. I only had a handful of seed; so I shared it with a few close friends. If we can obtain enough seed, I'll be including it in the giant veggie exchange in 2008. Jesse started his indoors during the winter, and he also gave me my plants from clonal cuttings that are now growing in my garden. I then took my own cuttings and produced even more plants. If we are unable to produce seed, we will just keep clonal cuttings all winter to keep the plants alive. My cuttings are actually doing better than plants from seed.

Believe it or not, this amaranth can actually produce even larger stem circumferences than what Jesse has. I've read scientific articles saying they can reach up to 9 meters tall. These plants are absolutely incredible to watch grow. You can't over water them and it's tough to over fertilize them. Their major weakness is that they need a constant supply of water. You can't let them dry out, or they die really quickly. They are also very delicate and leaves die if they brush up against other plants from the wind. Cucumber beetles love them, and Jesse said deer went after his.

7/10/2007 3:38:01 AM

sunflower_info

West Amwell, NJ

Update on my friend's amaranth plant. He measured his stalk yesterday and it increased from 35 inches in circumference to 40 inches.

7/17/2007 11:38:19 PM

The GardenMonster

Poughkeepsie New York


New York state gardener/farmer Jesse Eldrid specializes in growing heavy, tall, and large vegetables and annual plants. On October 25th, 2007, after a long summer of working, watching, and waiting, he finally contacted county officials in order to obtain a legitimate measurement of the Amaranthus Australis plant he had been growing since the beginning of the year. When Jesse contacted the local bureau of weights and measures, he knew that he had a record-breaking plant -- but he didn't know that his plant would be almost twelve feet (11.98) taller than the the goal he had set for himself in the existing record: the official measurement of the plant, he would learn that afternoon, was 27'10".
In the early Spring months of 2007, Jesse received several amaranth seeds from the USDA NCRPIS (United States Department of Agriculture, North Central Regional Plant Introduction Station). Although one wouldn't think it from the size of the mature plant, Amaranthus seeds themselves are actually quite small (smaller than the head of a pin.) Germinating them was fairly difficult, however. Once he managed to get a handful of young plants growing well, he knew one of them was destined to be huge. On May 15th, when Jesse transplanted the young seedlings outside, they started growing rapidly. The plant that grew the fastest also happened to have the largest trunk (measuring almost five feet around) which may have helped the plant grow significantly taller than normal. (An average "trunk" would have a five to eight inch circumference.)
As the temperatures rose, the plant grew faster and faster. Competition, too, was on the rise. In Spring, Jesse shared a small number of cuttings among friends, and their plants had begun to take on considerable height at around this time, as well. As it turned out, many of these cuttings exceeded the 15' benchmark, some even stretched to 20+ feet.

1/18/2008 1:11:16 AM

The GardenMonster

Poughkeepsie New York


In the early autumn, near the end of the amaranth's life cycle, Jesse's record-breaking plant was still growing several feet per day. Just before the official measurement, the plant also began producing flowers which also contributed to the overall height of the amaranth. Another factor contributing to the overwhelming size of the plant was the amount of water it received per day -- approximately 30 gallons per plant, per day.
In order to give the plant extra support (and to determine the benchmark for the old record) Jesse built a fifteen foot tall trellis for the amaranth. It didn't take long for the plant to outgrow it, though. By the middle of August, it was no longer possible to measure the plant with a ladder alone. (For the official measurement in October, professional arborists were called in, and a bucket-truck was necessary to get a measurement from the very top of the plant.)
Jesse Eldrid has been growing unusual plants for many years, and gardening is a life-long obsession for him. In the future, he plans on challenging the millet, sorghum, and historic corn records (for height.) He also intends, one day, to beat his own amaranth record. By growing crops such as these, Jesse hopes to raise awareness about the natural world and the potential for alternative energy.

1/18/2008 1:11:41 AM

The GardenMonster

Poughkeepsie New York

..............................................................It's not bad sportsmanship. It is a long story. It comes down to who grew the bigger plant, not who brought in the bigger media or the better cameras. It's about gardening.
I had twelve plants over 23' tall. Most of Brian's plants were *clones* of my certified 27'10" plant. He has left that information out of all of his articles, and posted up elsewhere that my plant is a "bigfoot" type of claim. Not only does he know better -- but he should have *acted* better, too. It's a much longer story than this, and it would probably make a good book. Maybe Brian would be interested in helping me write it??

1/18/2008 1:12:39 AM

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