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BIG SHOW DOG

Kentucky, U.S.A.

Seed stock crosses, ie; 1000.5 Stock X open, is that the same as 1000.5 Stock X self ? I also see alot of growers discussing a seed stock named "menting" is that a growers' name as others are? Or does that refer to something different? If that doesn't make sence that's OK, all systems normal! BSD David

11/6/2010 10:14:27 PM

Joe Z

Finksburg, Md

Big Show Dog, I am just a second year grower but I believe the open means that the pumpkin was naturally pollinated and they are not sure of the pollinator. The term menting I am not sure about. Joe Z.

11/7/2010 6:52:03 AM

ZAPPA

Western PA

When a fruit is "selfed", that means it is pollinated by that plant (the plant the fruit is growing on).A lot of times when a grower starts an early plant (maybe for a fair or other event), that is the only available pollen in his or her patch, so it has to be selfed.
If that is your only plant, and you let the bees pollinate it, I suppose that would be a "selfed, open pollination".

11/7/2010 9:20:36 AM

JDFan

El Paso TX.

As they have said a selfed pollination would be a female that is pollinated with a male(s) from the same plant that the pumkin is growing on ---- an open pollination would be a unknown pollinator (ie the female flower opened in the AM before it was noticed and the Bees may have already gotten in there so you can not be sure where the pollen came from)- even if the female was tied shut and you use pollen from an open male flower that would technically be an open pollination because a bee may have visited the male flower already and dropped off pollen from another plant !! - so in order to ensure it is a controlled pollination the female as well as the male flowers need to be tied up prior to opening and using for pollination !

11/7/2010 9:33:10 AM

BIG SHOW DOG

Kentucky, U.S.A.

Thanks, Joe Z, Zappa and JDFan. Some times as you take in alot of new information in a short period of time you get a bit confused. After I posted I thought better of it!!! I was tring to define my seeds that I have and ran across this ponder!

11/7/2010 8:29:17 PM

nilbert

JDFan is correct about the bees. Even if you only have one plant in the patch, if the pollination is uncontrolled, it is considered an open, as the bees may have access to another source of unknown pollen.

Another term you didn't mention is "sib" or "sibbed." This is for a controlled pollination between two plants grown off the same seed. Say you grow a 1725 Harp, and so does your neighbor. You use controlled males from your neighbor's plant to pollinate the female on your plant. Your fruit then becomes the 1725 Harp x sib.

11/8/2010 10:15:22 AM

Smallmouth

Upa Creek, Mo

Good post

11/8/2010 10:51:28 AM

BIG SHOW DOG

Kentucky, U.S.A.

Yeah, Luke, I enjoy easdropping on your pea piken, too!!!

11/8/2010 9:51:36 PM

Peace, Wayne

Owensboro, Ky.

BSD, the KGPG (formerly the KPM)is holding it's first ever grower's seminar on 2/12/11 in Richmond, KY. Or those are the facts as I know them at this time. Stay tuned and details will be clarified as time goes by!!! You would certainly benefit by going...as this growers seminar will include info from some of the HH's in KY!! Plus as a bonus, the KGPG will feature Chris (Superman) Kent!!! New World Record Watermelon Grower!!!! Peace, Wayne








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11/9/2010 2:05:43 AM

Pumpkin JAM

Tinykinville

menting is some hack grower from seymour, wi

11/11/2010 5:23:31 AM

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