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Subject: Amending my soil
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BigpumpkinOdin |
Hillsboro, il
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I plan on amending my soil for next season, i had a suggestion from some one local to use human feces instead of chicken. anyone know what the difference will be?
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9/2/2019 9:05:23 PM
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Jay Yohe |
Pittsburgh, PA
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This is a joke right?
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9/2/2019 11:01:00 PM
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Dawn, Suburban Gardener |
Lakewood, WA
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I'm guessing BigPumkinOdin is referring to biosolids. My understanding is that chicken manure is higher in calcium than most biosolids.
I'm growing in both Tagrow (biosolids) and chicken manure, plus other goodies, and am happy with my results. In urban areas, biosolids are more plentiful than steer manure.
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9/2/2019 11:21:21 PM
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Porkchop |
Central NY
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Just gotta wash yer hands more?
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9/3/2019 7:37:22 AM
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26 West |
50 Acres
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I'd want to know what chemicals were in it.
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9/3/2019 7:53:21 AM
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Dawn, Suburban Gardener |
Lakewood, WA
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What chemicals? Tagrow is sterilized with heat, so no chemicals are added.
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9/3/2019 11:58:53 AM
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Little Ketchup |
Grittyville, WA
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That doesnt mean its totally natural though. People flush or wash down their drain all kinds of things... Not necessarily broken down by heat... Prions and carcinogens are potential issues. I would try it but certainly not on the patch near my well. I have chicken farms near to me so probably will go that route. The idea of making a veggie garden in it is unappealing but your pumpkin plant might really love it.
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9/3/2019 12:37:34 PM
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Porkchop |
Central NY
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Prions huh glen?....pffft....ffft
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9/3/2019 2:47:38 PM
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Dawn, Suburban Gardener |
Lakewood, WA
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I'm not so sure I would use Tagrow on vegetables I was actually planning to eat, lol! Chicken and steer manure is nice for that.
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9/3/2019 4:46:00 PM
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Rick j. |
stoughton WI
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There is also a product made of biosolids in wisconsin called milorganite, not sure how its made but i would check for heavy metals in it.
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9/3/2019 5:08:40 PM
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wile coyote |
On a cliff in the desert
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If you are thinking about using fertilizer from a waste water treatment plant, You have to worry about heavy metals and medications that have entered into the water they process.
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9/3/2019 5:10:34 PM
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bnot |
Oak Grove, Mn
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Since I am needing a cheaper source of compost, I looked at wikipedia on the subject of biosolids. For a wiki article...it actually gets a bit technical. Some of the test data from the early 2000's gives me pause about using it.
Since Glenomkins brought it up...i had to do a search to see what a prion is. Yes, it is a real term. Next I did a search of "Prions and Biosolids". Guess what...there might be a connection. The biosolid industry is trying to debunk this, but in about 1/2 hour of reading and searching...there are some tests that showing prions can survive the treatment procedure of biosolids. It is interesting that some locals have banned the use of biosolids on agricultural land. Too many uncertainties for me to choose biosolids as my compost source. Once applied, I cant take it off. What if some year, I give up on the giants, and just try to grow tasty things.
The search for cheap compost continues...
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9/3/2019 5:19:41 PM
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BigpumpkinOdin |
Hillsboro, il
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no jay it was no joke genuine question we have several gardeners here in town that use it and seem to have luck
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9/3/2019 9:06:11 PM
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BigpumpkinOdin |
Hillsboro, il
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i could of been more descriptive yes from a waste water plant. just doing my research
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9/3/2019 9:06:45 PM
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BigpumpkinOdin |
Hillsboro, il
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suburban gardener im in a rural town just trying to find what the best options are for me
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9/3/2019 9:07:48 PM
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cjb |
Plymouth, MN
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Prions are very resilient. But they're found in neural tissue (brains). I don't think many of those are getting flushed.
If its properly composted and treated, it should just be nutrients. I wouldn't spread raw manure or feces on a garden out of concern for e coli and other bacteria.
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9/3/2019 9:16:37 PM
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BigpumpkinOdin |
Hillsboro, il
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it would be treated and dried from the wast water treatment plant
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9/3/2019 9:18:52 PM
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Porkchop |
Central NY
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Prions in brains?....oh...we’re safe then...Brandon doesn’t have any of those...
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9/3/2019 9:25:06 PM
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Porkchop |
Central NY
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Burn
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9/3/2019 9:30:37 PM
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Little Ketchup |
Grittyville, WA
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Lol bp stands for brain power. Yes just divide your pumpkin weight by ten... And that your IQ lol.
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9/3/2019 11:26:21 PM
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wile coyote |
On a cliff in the desert
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I hope that you don't eat your tomatoes, watermelons or whatever you grow using waste water fertilizer. My friend that works at a waste plant making fertilizer told me that is should only be used on crops for animal not human consumption.
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9/3/2019 11:30:34 PM
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Iowegian |
Anamosa, IA BPIowegian@aol.com
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Milorganite is a fertilizer made from Milwaukee sewage sludge. Perhaps this is what someone was talking about with human feces fertilizer.
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9/3/2019 11:53:35 PM
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BigpumpkinOdin |
Hillsboro, il
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haha Wile to be honest the only vegetable i do eat is potatoes and i dont grow them. My only grown plant is my kins
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9/3/2019 11:53:52 PM
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Wolfpack83 |
central Nc
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Need help with that Brandon. I'm doing the math with my pumpkin PB weight and keep coming up with a negative IQ...
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9/4/2019 9:19:00 AM
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Wolfpack83 |
central Nc
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Self Buurrrn
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9/4/2019 9:19:10 AM
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Dawn, Suburban Gardener |
Lakewood, WA
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Nice job on doing your homework, BigpumpkinOdin, while the guys horse around on your thread :-)
Tagrow has a loyal local following with people reporting excellent results. Many of these folks are growing non-edible flowers and lawn, lol. Tagrow has drawbacks, as well.
Have fun everyone and good luck BPO!
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9/4/2019 12:55:09 PM
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Porkchop |
Central NY
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(Yea, sorry Odin...not really sure about the poop, feel like I’ve been zero help this year)...best of luck next year!!
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9/4/2019 3:25:04 PM
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