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Minnesota(dw447@fastmail.fm)

I think I read in one of Langevin's books, that there were some growers looking into, if there is more similarity between seeds from the same lobe vs. seeds from different lobes of the same pumpkin(or something to this extent).
Has anything been determined?

1/12/2006 9:27:21 PM

Rhode Island

yes my friend doug

ive determined that we all have two much time on our hands and will say just about anything regarding pumpkins to keep the dream alive.( lol just kidding )

truth be told, i dont get into lobe/segiment discussions. its to deep for me.( i have enough trouble keeping the plants healthy and producing.

we just make sure we follow proper procedures and always use three to four males on each pollination.

its tough enough to get fruit to set depending on weather conditions etc. so i dont care about anything else.as long as there are at least four lobes im ready to drop in some pixie dust.

1/12/2006 10:38:07 PM

Buffalo, MN (Billsbigpumpkins@hotmail.com)

Hi doug/neighbor I have this interesting question on the same thing. Remembering back to my school days (and that was 40 years) the seed is the only thing that the male has any effect on. For example if you plant Indian corn next to field corn you will find multiple colored kernels in the filed corn. Therefore could you take pumpkins that produce white, brown, short or long seeds and pollinate different lobes and make multiple crosses at one time? Here is another idea with a five lobe pollinate one lobe with one male, the two across from it with another and do not pollinate the other two. That way you know which seeds are which. Boy do I have time on my hands.

1/12/2006 11:36:50 PM

Syracuse, NY

so you'd be COLOR-ENCODING the seeds by what you would pollinate them with......oyyy, genius again! now, let us just hope that Lobe A X pollen B doesn't make the same- color seeds as Lobe B x pollen C, hah? you probably have that fig'd out already, i'll bet...eric

1/13/2006 12:33:19 AM

Sioux Falls, SD garyboer@dakotalink.com

I don't know of any reason to believe in lobe similarity
I thought each seed was different
1 pollen grain for each female

1/13/2006 1:00:46 AM

Cameron,ontario Team Lunatic

I think GVGO member Harry Willemse is doing some experimenting with that same topic. He took the seeds from this year's pumpkin & divided them up in the different segments (lobes)from which they came from within the pumpkin. He said he'd write an article about it soon. I think he figures that each seed from the same lobe area might produce similar looking & size pumpkins given the same treatment. Pretty hard to prove though. Should be interesting reading though. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

Phil

1/13/2006 6:52:09 AM

Rhode Island

several years back ri grower john castellucci ran a experiment of which many growers participated.
john harvested his seeds by segment, identifing each.
to my knowledge there was no significant difference with results when offspring comparisons were made.
(same males used on all segements )

1/13/2006 7:05:34 AM

Western NY

i have separated the seeds by lobe from 3 different pumpkins of mine. I don't believe anyhave been planted enough to show any kind of difference.

1/13/2006 8:00:12 AM

Eastern Pennsylvania

As G would say, no

1/13/2006 10:04:37 AM

Norton, MA

I'm going to try stuff with dye on some field pumpkins this year, maybe even an AG? AleX Noel.

1/13/2006 6:44:20 PM