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Jordan Rivington (JRO)

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

What is the general opinion regarding a selfed offspring of a champ. For example how would the seeds from a fruit grown from a 1097.5 x SELF compare to the original Beachy?

Would the good be further enhanced?

10/9/2007 6:20:12 PM

MNPG(Al)

Mn

good or as good as the 1097..look at the 1450 wallace

10/9/2007 7:22:23 PM

Andy W

Western NY

1450 was a sibbed seed.

there will be a few nice pumpkins grown from selfed seeds. maybe big enough to get more people to try them.

10/9/2007 7:31:33 PM

Ron Rahe (uncron1@hotmail.com)

Cincinnati,OH

The 1450 was very very good to me.

10/9/2007 10:22:44 PM

Doug14

Minnesota(dw447@fastmail.fm)

What I like about certain selfed seeds, is that if the selfed pumpkin had desireable characteristics...size/shape/color/thick walls/etc....those characteristics would hopefully have a decent chance of being passed down to it's offspring. I don't know if this is actually the case, but it seems logical. I've seen instances that support this, and some that don't.
I'm wondering if someone crossed a desireable 845 Bobier X self with a desireable 898 Knaus X self.....would the progeny do as well as the 1068 Wallace?

10/9/2007 10:50:11 PM

Doug14

Minnesota(dw447@fastmail.fm)

I should add that I grew a 603.5 Muller this year(845 Nesbit X self) and it weighed in at 1041 lbs. I was pleased, as it's a personal best.

10/9/2007 10:51:49 PM

Andy W

Western NY

Doug - along your lines of thinking:

427 Wolf 2002 (760 Patrick x 476 Beachy)

the 760 is a selfed 801, and the 476 is a selfed 876 Lloyd, making it "kind of" an 846 Calai remake, except selfed on each side.

the 427 was grown a couple times. it grew the 575 Raymont (1st place at early show):

http://bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=14243


if you're loking for 898 type genes:

463 Rhinehart 2004 (820 Werner x 870 Powers)

820 is a selfed 1007 Brown, and the 870 is a selfed 1048 Cox. Jeff Rhinehart used pollen from my 870 plant that year to make the cross, so i have some of those seeds.

10/10/2007 9:01:46 AM

Jordan Rivington (JRO)

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

Thats awesome Doug. I hope to break the 1000 barrier next year.

10/10/2007 9:57:33 AM

Jordan Rivington (JRO)

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

I will have to try a good self this upcoming year. I have just the one. Its a beachy 2002#9 which is 846 Calai x SELF. Should be interesting.

10/10/2007 10:02:46 AM

seedling

London, Ohio

i got my new personal best this year of a selfed seed it was the 735pukos (846calixself) i got it to 1224lbs. i selfed it also. hopefully there will be a good seed count in it if so your welcome to some of the seeds.
dan

10/10/2007 12:48:55 PM

WiZZy

President - GPC

I selfed the 1233 Reiss last year, had three folks plant this year, all the pumpkins came out just like Mom. Except one was around 500lbs for a first time grower up in Wyoming. I grew the selfed Reiss right next to the original, both plants looked the same except the self had a bit more vigourous growth, probably a better root system.

10/10/2007 12:54:15 PM

Jordan Rivington (JRO)

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

Yeah sure seedling, I'll take a couple of those if you dont mind. Where can I send a bubble?

10/10/2007 1:47:05 PM

seedling

London, Ohio

email me at
nimbulasnimbone@aol.com

10/11/2007 3:14:42 AM

getuone

Brookville,ohio

seedling I'v never grown a pumpkin over 3 lbs. would the the seed offer be for anyone

10/13/2007 7:32:41 PM

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