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WNC Usa

Do you notice if all the pumpkins one plant are generally the same shape?

7/30/2010 9:09:58 PM

Des Moines, Iowa

I have noticed a few 1622 look just like mine. I have also noticed a few white 1421

7/30/2010 10:33:22 PM

Mt. Pleasant, MI

Check out my grower diary from last year.
3 pumpkins grown on the 1026 Young could not have been more different shape.

7/31/2010 8:28:51 AM

Gays Mills, Wisconsin

genectics play a major role in the shape, but so does the weather, fruit position, nutrient uptake, fruit protection, stem length and there are probably more variables.

7/31/2010 6:40:23 PM

Rhode Island

just to confirm what my man jrgourd said, consider thus.

the 1068 is arguably one of top seeds of all time. the mother was a large bagel shaped pumpkin. its thrown everything from table tops to eggs to tall and wide to low and long.

there is so much gross and inbreading genetics in todays pumpkins that sometime you really do " never know what yer gonna get "

7/31/2010 8:06:36 PM

Pataskala,OH

That is why I cross pumpkins that are as furthest apart genetically as possible.

7/31/2010 8:20:04 PM

Northern California Foothills

AG is an open pollinated variety so all the plants are the same except if mutations occur.

8/1/2010 11:26:29 AM

WNC Usa

Reason I ask is on my (generic)plant this year all the females seem to have the same shape roughly

8/1/2010 7:35:19 PM

WNC Usa

What would be a mutation in an AG plant?

8/1/2010 7:36:07 PM

Colorado

Theyre usually similar but with some differences in stem lenght ,# lobes,stem angle.We dont tend to let more than one grow to maturity to get a lot of info.One year I did have two on a plant -one was taller(almost a wheel) and the other had more lenght

8/4/2010 1:00:29 PM

Eastern Pennsylvania

Yes do tell cucurbits what exactly are you talking about? Maybe you leave your flowers for the bees to open pollinate but we aren't leaving anything to the bees here.

8/9/2010 1:28:38 PM

Las Cruces NM

KRC original statement was "same plant" and all I have grown from same plant had same color and shape. That is because the plant has the same genetics.

That other statements seem to be more on seed stock (offspring). I grew 5 seeds from the same parent grew 5 diferent shapes + color combos with two had simular shape and two had simular color, just not on the same plant. And the next generation even threw a white which has not been thrown before. You have to look at genetics like playing cards in every hand delt is different. And when it comes to breading, you have to look at it raising or lowering a probability. Take all 10's and below out of a deck and you raise the probability of 4 aces ... but you remove all possibilities of a royal flush or any flush or straight. Likewise, play with a pinochle deck and wha-who!

Giants have been bred for giants and for the most part without reguard for shape, color, disease, blossom split, et. al. In in this quest for size, my have even unknowingly breed in bad genes like blossom end splits -- I believe we have anyways. But in fairness, some are breeding for Orange ... breeding out splits ... breed for shape ... and perhaps someone out there is even breeding out PM. And that is the fun in genetics and the driving force behind hybridizers, that is to better the fruit.

OK I'm rambling now ... so just my 2 cents ... and speaking of which, has anyone wondered what happened to the cent symbol on keyboards ... Ow I know the answer, I'm just still rambling LOL. Time to do a random search and see where I end up LOL.

8/28/2010 9:07:39 PM