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Eastern Pennsylvania

Anyone who cares has selected their orange seeds to plant but what are you dOing to increase the weights of Orange pumpkins? What is your game plan?

3/10/2011 9:04:43 PM

Brooklyn Corner, Nova Scotia

Well John Vincent has set the bar two years in a row, 993, 1059 and now his 513.5 Vincent 2010 = 1059 Vincent\McGill X 1161 Rodonis. This would be a good stand alone or pollinator, either way it's a good bet.

3/10/2011 9:13:58 PM

Frankfort Ohio

i hope for a 1059 x 1610 cross

3/10/2011 9:15:42 PM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

I added the 1370 Rose to John Vincent's 993.2 in hopes that it would add some girth and size to the offspring while maintaining the brilliant orange. We will find out if it worked this year.

3/10/2011 10:09:33 PM

Ely Mn

probly the 921.5 rosa crossed with the 1059 vincent-mcgill i will be doing.

3/10/2011 10:15:52 PM

Owensboro, Ky.

Will pollinate almost everything w/ 1610!!! Peace, Wayne

3/10/2011 10:43:49 PM

Dorval,Quebec

1339 Vincent-McGill x 513 Vincent

3/10/2011 10:45:52 PM

San Diego

1544 revier x 1610, will be a great cross in my patch, big, heavy, and orange hopefully!

3/11/2011 12:51:32 AM

North Port, FL.

I have crossed 1059 Vincent-McGill x 1339 Vincent-McGill,
925 Lyons x 1059 Vincent-McGill, 138 Kenny David x 1059 Vincent-McGill, hope my selected crosses will have good orange genetic, kenny.

3/11/2011 4:36:28 AM

Johnston, R.I.

I really like the 1059..

3/11/2011 6:45:07 AM

Breslau, Ontario, Canada

I would like to see the 1059 X 1810

3/11/2011 8:38:09 AM

Eastern Pennsylvania

I like what I'm seeing. I'm definately on board with the 1610, 1544 and 1059!

3/11/2011 8:50:49 AM

Bristol R.I. USA

1610 Lieber. Big and orange.

3/11/2011 1:08:14 PM

Upa Creek, Mo

I am very excited to grow the 513 (1059 X 1161). I'm also growing a 1059 and might cross it back to help retain the orange, but also have the power of the 1161.

3/11/2011 2:48:13 PM

Claysburg , PA

1450 wallace x 1059 Vincent/McGill and 1059 x 1450

3/11/2011 4:08:44 PM

Alabama

Orange with Envy, 988 janowiak(670 daigle x 1450 wallace) looks like a cross like that one.

3/11/2011 6:11:24 PM

Cincinnati,OH

Im using one of my secret under 500lb. crosses.
Plan on pollinating with 1004 Mohr.

3/11/2011 6:22:07 PM

Upper Strasburg, PA

The 1662 Stelts might be worth a shot. It may take an extra generation to get it back to that nice shiny orange, but the potential is certainly there.

3/11/2011 7:53:54 PM

Upper Strasburg, PA

a 792 Wolf might work as well

3/11/2011 7:58:38 PM

Coventry R.I.

I will be growing the 1610 liber and crossing it with the 1290 pionier. (1610 liber x 1290 pionier)
And the reverse (1290 x 1610)

3/11/2011 8:10:13 PM

N.e. Ct.

I have a 500 northrup, 1290 poirier, 1131 Gansert these will will be my pollinators for orange
moms will be 1421 stelts, 1521.5 werner, 1462 starr
the crosses will depend on which flowers are ready.
if it works the cosses will be.
Gensert X Werner
northrup X Starr
Poirier X Stelts
time will tell

3/12/2011 10:03:33 AM

Deer Park WA

We are still shooting for a 1610 Liber X 834* Gadberry

Lifes Good :)

3/13/2011 11:51:08 PM

Eastern Pennsylvania

Gadzooks Gadberry's what do you think will be the outcome of 1610 x 834* squash? Deep down, I've had this feeling that the orange and the green are somehow related, maybe because the field pumpkins go from green to orange, not sure. Or maybe just because both traits seem to be somewhat recessive. Thoughts?

3/14/2011 1:11:17 PM

Eastern Pennsylvania

I firmly believe that the key is to search out a pumpkin that ended up with nice color and shape from a big seed that wasn't necessarily planted for that reason. Usually most of the talk is about color, but shape and texture are important too. Even a light orange pumpkin looks spectacular if it is also nice and round and not too cantalouped. AKA the 1332 Wolf 2010. I don't think color alone is going to be enough to get the job done at a hard core shoot-out like Doylestown this year.

Some big seeds that have shown the potential to throw nice lookers here and there are the 1161, 1385, 1544 and 1421.5. With the sheer # of 1421.5 to be planted in 2011 we are going to see some gems I guarantee it, the 1662 is in there somewhere. I think overall the 1421.5 has the best potential to produce that next 1610.

Some modern offspring from big fruit that already went really orange and/ or had great shape and skin are the 977 Bosworth, 1332 Wolf, 1610 Leiber. What other pumpkins caught "orange lightning" in a bottle?

3/14/2011 1:31:08 PM

norway , maine

I may be being a bit of a homer here but the 1471 Pierpont (1161 Rodonis X 1129 Pierpont) should get some consideration for big and orange. The 1471 was a HDA winner and the 1129 pollinator was a beautiful orange 1058 lb. pumpkin. The cross on the 1129 is 1225.4 Jutras X 998.6 Pukos. I have a couple nice pics on my camera of both the 1471 and 1058 , hopefully Ed won't mind me posting the pics to my diary and putting a link below. Also the 1058 was weighed at an early fair in Windsor,ME, pretty sure it was late August may have been early September. ile get those photos up

3/14/2011 5:28:00 PM

Wi

I'm planning on 1610 Lieber x self, 1290 Poirier x 1610, 1471 Pierpont x 1610, 1622 Young x 1610, and 1306 Mohr x 1610. Nothing like a theme, heh?

3/14/2011 6:00:09 PM

norway , maine

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=151998

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=151999

How bout them apples err pumpkins

3/14/2011 9:05:50 PM

Deer Park WA

Yes we are after the deep color and big round shape both of these traits were dominate in the 1610 and 834*. Now that you bring it up I probably should use our 823* (834* x self) as it had the same round shape and black green color as the 834* and would be on the same inbred plane as the 1610 Lieber (1163 x self)... I am betting that the resulting off spring will be deep green and much bigger!

3/14/2011 10:21:58 PM

New Brunswick

Perhaps the 1355 Kilburn is worth a look. A glance at the 1008 Ebbett grown from it is quite convincing. Pictures are on the AGGC site.

3/15/2011 7:42:21 AM

Picton,ON (j.vincent@xplornet.ca)

Perhaps Gad's is on to something. has anyone seen pictures of the 1495 Stelts 2010? It is an 1161 and was just about (but not quite)100% green! Perhaps the green gene is just under the surface of the 1161 and may be hiding in the 1610. There were a few seeds a few years back that grew either shiny orange or green.

3/15/2011 7:58:18 AM

Pocatello (cliffwarren@yahoo.com)

How does someone go about getting some of those 1471 Pieront seeds?

3/23/2011 5:20:10 PM

Ely Mn

warren,just email Ed pierpont

3/25/2011 6:46:09 PM

Ely Mn

the 1058 pierpont should be a good one,as the pollinator was the 1161 rodonis and grew the dark orange 1471 peirpont.

3/25/2011 6:55:11 PM

Alabama

Master P, do you have his email address? jvh440@yahoo.com

3/25/2011 7:16:31 PM

Ely Mn

email sent bell

3/25/2011 8:19:41 PM

Brooklyn Corner, Nova Scotia

I'm a little surprised no one has mentioned 998 Pukos or 1231 Pukos. John's 1059- 993 V/M x 998 Pukos has produced some beauties and 919 Richards- 939 Richards x 1231 Pukos produced 1159 Richards and more beauties. 998 pretty hard to find, 1231 is a better bet.

3/25/2011 10:08:52 PM

nOVA sCOTIA

Come on people,open your eye's.1046Stevens is the bomb when it comes to putting some orange where you want it!!! Check it out on the aggc

3/26/2011 2:29:36 PM

nOVA sCOTIA

I'd be interested in a few of your 1046 Chris if they are available. Thanks Carl

3/26/2011 3:03:48 PM

Alabama

Master P, I never got a email.

3/26/2011 8:44:10 PM

No Place Special

I have been working on an orange and heavy cross for many years and I think im getting close.

2009 I had a cross (932 A Frantz) that was (on paper anyhow) 37.5% 1450, 25% 998, 18.75% 1097, 12.5% 1231 and 6.25% 1370. It was crossed with my 1176 Frantz (1370 Rose x 781 Frantz(1101 Northrup x 1125 Frantz). In my opinion, the 1101, 781 and 1125 were VERY beautiful pumpkins in both shape and color. I have been out of the pumpkin loop for a couple years but i challenge someone to find 3 better looking pumpkins!

Now that resulting cross is a seed i hope to plant this year..... just for fun / genetics as I am retired from competative pumpkin growing.

The genetic make up would potentially be similar to this...
1370 Rose 28.13%
781 Frantz 25%
1450 Wallace 18.75%
998 Pukos 12.5%
1097 Beachy 9.38%
1231 Pukos 6.25%

5/4/2011 2:15:33 PM

No Place Special

Not 100% decided on what im crossing INTO it this year. Debating sib, self, cross back to 07 cross ((1097x1370)x 1450). I want to bring back more 1450 I think. Love to hear opinions!

5/4/2011 2:24:34 PM

No Place Special

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=28201


link to the 1125 04'

5/4/2011 2:29:17 PM

No Place Special

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=43693

781 05'

5/4/2011 2:31:31 PM

No Place Special

I cant find a pick of the 1101 Northrup but its a beauty!

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=121693

there is the link to 932 A Frantz. This is how decent the shape and color were BEFORE I added the nice orange to the mix. Im curious to see if my 2010 cross actually does produce big, orange and heavy. fingers crossed

5/4/2011 2:40:09 PM