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Putnam Ct.

I did this cross and reverse. Is anybody else crossing these and what is the ( offical ) wording for these crosses?

7/7/2011 10:37:38 PM

Indiana

Father fertilizing his daughter who was made when her mom was fertilized by her brother.....what else would you call it?

7/7/2011 10:46:49 PM

Hinckley MN

Indiana jokes aside, inbreeding isn't really an issue with curcurbits. if it isn't selfed or sibed, then you just list the pumpkin each seed came from, even if sustained by cloning. I think the pumpkin the polinator grew is more telling of the genetics than the pumpkin the seed came from, but that is not the system currently used to track genetics.

7/7/2011 11:08:42 PM

Connecticut

OK this is may be a little confusing but follow the logic here…

F: 1663 Zoellner x M: 1421.5 Stelts clone [grew the 1663 Zoellner]

What this becomes is a “half self” because half of the 1663 seed genetics are the same genetics that are in the pollen since it is the actual plant that grew the 1663 that the male flowers were harvested from. The reverse cross also falls under the same “half self” classification.

Needless to say this cross and reverse can be summed up as a purified 1421.5 Stelts since the 1663 was a 1421.5 Stelts x sib. “Got Stelts?”

I must say I have enjoyed the clone project and it has lead to unpredicted areas of consideration such as this nomenclature issue. I have chosen to use the brackets “[]” to state what pumpkin the cloned plant grew to try and get some consistency.

Hope this answers the question and makes sense as I do not think many “half self” crosses have been preformed before.

7/8/2011 10:31:24 PM

Midway, UT

Cool cross.

9/13/2011 5:36:05 PM