AG Genetics and Breeding
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Subject: Selfed Seeds
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Doug14 |
Minnesota(dw447@fastmail.fm)
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Based on the results of the 1725 Harp, do you think we'll see more selfed seeds in the future?
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10/25/2012 6:56:55 PM
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Andy W |
Western NY
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more
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10/25/2012 9:22:09 PM
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Pumpking |
Germany
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The 1723 Marshall also produced some great results this year, and I´m sure many people will also grow the seeds from the very heavy selfed ones from 2012 and won´t be disappointed.
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10/26/2012 3:50:24 AM
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Ron Rahe (uncron1@hotmail.com) |
Cincinnati,OH
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Hardly anyone would grow a selfed seed until the 1450 Wallace. Although it was a sib cross it opened the door for selfing.
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10/26/2012 6:10:46 PM
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gmasudu(team extreme) |
Cedar City, Ut
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this was the 1st time i ever tryed a selfed seed, cross,, didnt quite get the size of the parent:-(, but i believe better color and shape,, i will grow 1 of my own seeds next season,, with a different seed,, if any germ,,
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10/26/2012 6:50:16 PM
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BrianB |
Eastern Washington State
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yeah too bad the 2009 wasn't a selfed fruit, LOL!
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11/1/2012 4:00:43 PM
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Doug14 |
Minnesota(dw447@fastmail.fm)
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I like the selfing strategy myself. One of my favorite color seeds is the 603.5 Muller, which is a selfed seed, that consistanly grows nice orange pumpkins, that frequently go heavy to the chart.
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11/1/2012 5:45:33 PM
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BrianB |
Eastern Washington State
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Yes the selfing strategy makes sense. I've tried in the past to explain why to no real avail. People think 'inbreeding' and leave it at that. However if you look at enough pedigrees its clear that AG already has a narrow genetic base anyway.
That 603.5 material looks really nice.
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11/1/2012 6:20:54 PM
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pap |
Rhode Island
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yep a genetic cess pool for sure if we growers dont research the seeds family tree for several years of pollination history before just going in willy-nilly with the wrong pollon.
i took a risk in 2006 when i created the 1068 wallace sib but the results turned out well. that 1450 was number two in the world pumpkin and it went on to be a fantastic pollinator as well.
i tried it again in 2011 when i did a 1725 sib. the jury is still out on that one (1647 wallace) but there were several over 1,600 grown from its seed this year.
the key in my opinion is not to do it again.if you were growing a 1647 for example? bring pollon in from a completely (or almost completely) different genetic line )dont sib or self the second time around.
to much selfing or even sibbing a line could lead to steril seeds, oddly shaped pumpkins,pollination and plant problems as well.at least thats the way i see it.
PAP
pap
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11/2/2012 10:45:19 AM
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