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Eurasia

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/gourds/msg1016221023684.html?11055
Oh, I will try to crossbreed this C. maximelo with Atlantic Giants in 2014, and maybe we´ll get really sweet AGs at last.
Who wants to try this too?
mail for seeds to ludwig.ammer@gmail.com
aka amelio or pumplobster

10/9/2013 5:15:24 PM

Springfield, Missouri

Cool cross! This is an intergeneric hybrid not a new species http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_(biology). Did you have any problems with pollen sterility? Even making crosses within a genus can cause sterility in hybrids. Examples (C. maxima x moschata)which is self sterile most of the time. I am interested to see what your F2s look like.

10/9/2013 6:59:16 PM

Eurasia

Whisht! Don´t upstage.
Everyone here knows it, that I´m a fraud and mountebank.
And therefore my great little C. maximelo `Acorneti´ is a new species!
Many people do not like to hear the word hybrid, but species...
Sir Duncan Logan, I would accept some seed of your C. lumpelliana (I know that it´s lundelliana, but I am Yenish like the Marx brothers and no serious Germinator) pollinated with C. maxima Atlantic Giant as reparations. I know, these fruits are only about 7" long, but my big hybrid C. maxima `Turks Turban´ x C. maxima AG (922 Mohr 11) weighed only 4 lbs. in the first year and 24 to 35 lbs. in the second. I think, your fruits will explode in weight too!...or they burst like one of my C. maxima hybrids (sibling of C. maximelo) did when crossed with C. maxima `Pumpkin de Durban´. You know, these best Boer Ford is very flat and wide, but this hybrid fruit could not broaden so much.
Your question about pollen sterility: self pollination was done by bumblebees.
But I had losses with empty seed in my first moam (mother of all maximelos): incredible amount of 600 seeds and only 375 of them with kernels.

10/10/2013 3:24:55 AM

Eurasia

...plus more than 100 unfinished seed in the moam: only half of all were good seed. I was so surprised at this fruit: more than 700 seeds...
An AG grower will breed moam in Bristol Rhode Island next year. Maybe he shoes pictures here in his bp diary. Maybe he pollinates moam with his own AGs.

10/10/2013 3:48:59 AM

Springfield, Missouri

I am sorry, I have been gone for some time. I now know about amelio/pumplobster. Sorry for responding.

10/10/2013 4:13:47 AM

Minnesota

What else do you grow lobsterman? corn, carrotts, beans, peas, tomato, watermelon? anything? loung guard?

10/10/2013 4:22:29 AM

Eurasia

Thomas W. Whitaker said this half a century ago, that conventional plant-breeding techniques are not enough to pick up or really transfer any good character from C. lundelliana to C. maxima.
Do you work with GMO then, Sir Duncan Logan, to be better...
Your responding is very much appreciated.

10/10/2013 4:36:33 AM

Minnesota

Nevermind

10/10/2013 9:45:28 AM

Alabama

I think he might not know English very well.

10/11/2013 7:03:30 PM

Alabama

pumplobster, what country are you from?

10/11/2013 7:04:22 PM

Polson, Montana

This is amelio. I have e-mails to prove it.

10/11/2013 8:38:31 PM

Fairfield, CT, 06825

Amelio, Good to hear from you... Keep up the good work!!!

10/11/2013 9:29:29 PM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

New pumpkin species...lmao...like nobody has done that before.

You got long enough arms to pat yourself on the back...might be an easier thing to do.

10/11/2013 9:52:29 PM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

Do not encourage him..it is like encouraging cucumber beetles and powdery mildew in your patch

10/11/2013 10:58:59 PM

Eurasia

Hi Linus, did you already accomplish your Wisconsin state record not?
I have to say that the C. maximelo is the work of a eight years old boy, who wants to become a botanist, agricultural scientist or gardener since five years. When we had the tiger melon, he wanted to graft with it. He did some good experiments, and then we planted it by the C. moschata `La Estrella´. But this was not sheer seed: a C. maxima of the kabocha group was with it. And that fruit we pollinated with the tiger melon, cause Bertold Carl always wants to try the impossible crossings. Our success is an accidental product, cause we did not buy the mother fruit and a child wanted to show off what great botanist he already was. Now he does not want to grow his little C. maximelo `Acorneti´ in my garden or field, cause i do not waive growing other C. maxima. He grows in Austria next year, but a professional grower in Hungary also grows F1 and F2 in 2014. I only grow F1 selfed to make more little fruits.
Today I worked up my `B52 pumplobster´: this is the best ever grown pumpkin and an accidental product too. Mother seed was an AG grown in the state of Washington and very likely pollinated with a Buttercup. I have seen such fruits in the diary of Scott Henkin. He suffers a heavy cholingitis and could not spend so much time for his AGs this years. There in California his AGs grew wild and bees did their work. Cause Scott told me, that he enjoyed to eat the wild fruits, i tryed such a wild pollinated fruit from Ashcan (diary here), which clearly was pollinated by a C. maxima of the turbaniformis group. Ashcan lost all of his see, but I preserved some seed with amelio´s food chemistry. The B52pumplobster weighed 52 lbs. and was pollinated on Independence Day. In 2014 a few growers in the USA will grow this fruit with the flavor of oranges when cooked.

10/12/2013 4:16:54 PM

Eurasia

correction line:
...lost all of his seed cause of Aspergillus niger, but I preserved...

10/12/2013 5:21:14 PM

Nottingham, UK

verbal diarrh........

10/12/2013 5:28:38 PM

Eurasia

Oh Dandy, get well soon!
You could eat moss-charcoal and cure your gut.

10/13/2013 2:59:47 AM