AG Genetics and Breeding
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Subject: Whats in your ORANGE patch next year?
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CliffWarren |
Pocatello (cliffwarren@yahoo.com)
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My incomplete list. I have plans for six plants:
1 - 500.5 Warren 2013 - Grew my HD winner 849. Solid orange background.
2 - 849 Warren 2014 - Was an HD winner, and crossed with the 608 Olilla (1059 VM X self). The 608 grew another shiny orange fruit.
3 - 409 Warren 2013 - Another grower grew it, and it came out RED and very little ribbing. I like the genetics and want to pass them on. Was 1432 Northrup X OPEN (most likely self). Was grown on a side vine, started late and harvested early for the fair.
4 - 1817 McConkie - Biggest HD winner ever. Going to cross more orange into it!
5 - ?
6 - ?
Sites five and six might get (ugly-big) or more known orange producers. Still open at this time.
Show me your plans for orange!
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12/15/2014 11:49:38 AM
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WiZZy |
President - GPC
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Im going to finally give my 555 Grande (1450 Wallace x 1810 Stevens) a premium patch. Won the last two HD awards for Jack growing at 6500 feet, he barley missed 1K each time........ Looking for a worthy mate.... Would love to cross it with Margo....
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12/15/2014 12:48:53 PM
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Engel's Great Pumpkins and Carvings |
Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)
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1. 1374 Engel 2014(359 Foss 13 x 1048 Engel 2012) Perfect Pumpkin with awesome symmetry and Orange Shiny Color. 2. Maybe Sib. Or back into another 1048
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12/15/2014 1:02:33 PM
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Smallmouth |
Upa Creek, Mo
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359 Foss and either 1317 Clementz or 1420 cutrupi - going big and orange
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12/15/2014 3:07:58 PM
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KC Kevin |
Mission Viejo, CA
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I got a 1506.3 Gates in the seed exchange- nice Orange color for a pumpkin its size!
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12/15/2014 3:17:36 PM
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Scott_B |
Columbia, Kentucky
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359 Foss and 1791 Holland
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12/15/2014 5:18:46 PM
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Ludwig Ammer |
Eurasia
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Cinderella x stretto 1723 Marshall 11
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12/15/2014 5:23:47 PM
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PatrickW |
Soldotna,AK
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Cliff, why not the 1947.5?
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12/15/2014 5:36:53 PM
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Frank4 |
Rhode Island
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1290 piorier x 1662 stelts
904 Vincent x 1662 stelts
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12/15/2014 5:45:19 PM
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Tree Doctor |
Mulino, Oregon
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For all you 'orangies' out there. If you are interested in my 1214 from 2012 (see my 1135 from 2014) I have seeds available. Picture is on the HD Club diary. Orange & long!
Jim
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12/15/2014 5:51:34 PM
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Ron Rahe (uncron1@hotmail.com) |
Cincinnati,OH
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823 Rahe 2014. HDA winner, lots of orange in the lineage. http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=230146
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12/15/2014 7:39:56 PM
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Andy H |
Brooklyn Corner, Nova Scotia
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This is great. We are probably seeing the next generation of great orange genetics.
For me, I'm a little old school. I have a 1016 Daletas and a 1230 Daletas that I have to give a chance. If they don't pop, I'm going with John Young 777 or 809. Awesome to see so many options.
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12/15/2014 9:12:18 PM
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TruckTech1471 |
South Bloomfield, Ohio
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I'd like to see the 1561 Reeb grown. It was a standout beauty at Hamilton and is a selfed 1661.5 Werner.
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12/15/2014 10:00:36 PM
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Smallmouth |
Upa Creek, Mo
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I was just thinking that Andy - probably going to start seeing some really nice ones consistently pushing 14-1500
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12/15/2014 10:01:18 PM
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Bubba Presley |
Muddy Waters
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Im going to put the 1317 back into the 1947 & others to keepem orange.
I have some 1450 Box coming.1634 Werner X 1317 that should come out orange also.
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12/15/2014 10:07:07 PM
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Andy W |
Western NY
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Current orange lineup, subject to change:
Amelia's 575 (x2) 500.5 Warren 359 Foss 798 Wolf 1561 Reeb 644 Wolf
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12/15/2014 10:57:38 PM
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wixom grower ( The Polish Hammer) |
Wixom MI.
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Looking to cross either the 1317 clementz or the 1947.5 clementz with the 705 dabacco (811 gerhardt x 2009 wallace)
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12/16/2014 12:23:31 AM
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Smallmouth |
Upa Creek, Mo
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Wixom, that 705 Dabacco could be a great cross. The 359 Foss (1048 Engel x 2009 Wallace)shows the mid-sized beauties can do well when crossed into the 2009.
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12/16/2014 7:54:33 AM
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BReeb |
Orient, Ohio
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Thanks Joe! I will be growing my 1561 trying for another HD award at Hamilton
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12/16/2014 9:28:43 AM
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WiZZy |
President - GPC
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359 Foss (1048 Engel x 2009 Wallace) X (1450 Wallace X 1820 Stevens)...just wait and see....
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12/16/2014 10:18:34 AM
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Mike-S |
Dorval,Quebec
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351 Gantner,my 511,1024 Northrup.
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12/16/2014 11:03:46 AM
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CliffWarren |
Pocatello (cliffwarren@yahoo.com)
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Patrick, right now anything is possible. I'm listing seeds that are already in my hand or that I'm sure I will get them.
Andy, I need to send you some seeds.
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12/16/2014 11:49:37 AM
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OLD-ROOKIE |
NILES , CALIF
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If it works out ( 772 poirior x 1662 stelts ) ( 500 Northrup x 2009 Wallace) ( 811 Gerhardt x 772 poirior)
No more room
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12/16/2014 12:43:43 PM
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wixom grower ( The Polish Hammer) |
Wixom MI.
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What seeds seem to have the most red in them ?
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12/16/2014 2:24:49 PM
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dguyh |
Quincy, CA
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I'm going with the 1784 Glasier. (1730 Werner X 1770 Lieber) It wasn't real orange but its progeny have been.
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12/16/2014 2:48:42 PM
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Ludwig Ammer |
Eurasia
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wixom-grower, the best red always has to be teased out. When I have a dark orange, and I think, that this color should become red, I provoke mother´s genetics with a dull pollinator, which is able to withdraw all orange, if it won. So I provoked C. maxima 'Lakota' with the cream-pink C. maxima 'Galleux d´Eysines' and produced the C. maxima 'Goscha' with a strong red besides a strong blackish green: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/gourds/msg0918031325265.jpg You can use a nice dark orange AG, make a inbred line of it and pollinate it with an inbreeded cream-beige 2000#er then to get the largest dark red monster ever seen. But Ron Rahe already has dense genetics for red, and so you might have your result next year or in 2016, if you pollinate a great fruit of him with an inbred line of a 2000#er. I think, that Beny Meier produced such most impressive cheesy lines.
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12/16/2014 3:25:03 PM
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don young |
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you want red
put ( paul rys ) in search box here on bp
beware of any lugnut stetto jibberish
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12/16/2014 3:37:18 PM
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wixom grower ( The Polish Hammer) |
Wixom MI.
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Does paul rys still grow red orange, and if so, how do you find him ?
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12/16/2014 4:00:39 PM
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Ludwig Ammer |
Eurasia
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Don, grafting giant C. maxima is Kids´ stuff. But your 1333/09 is kind of masterstroke. Would you allow me to grow stretto seed of your 1333 next year? It fits quite good to my 612/14 with so much 1385.5!
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12/16/2014 5:30:01 PM
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VTSteve |
South Hero, VT
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1770 Lieber 1244 Rea 1028 Gienger 988 Janowiak
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12/16/2014 6:09:04 PM
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Tom K |
Massachusetts
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805-543-2825 . Has anybody tried calling that number?
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12/16/2014 6:35:37 PM
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HankH |
Partlow,Va
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1546 Shenoha
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12/16/2014 10:11:37 PM
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Tomislav |
Croatia, EU
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For orange I will go with my 230 est and 470 est. I am curious what will grow out of this one. Wow, that 584 vezzolo is a beauty.
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12/17/2014 3:23:07 AM
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Dandytown |
Nottingham, UK
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1. 874.8 Geyelin (1770 x 1290) ~ Will grow a HDA winner everytime and if you like red is seems that Ron Rahe managed to isolate it in his 823 http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=230146
2. 766 Geyelin (1290 x 400) ~ if I can germinate it http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=210210
3. 1080 LaRiviere (2009 x 991)
4. 1738 Barron (1730 x 2009)
Final patch is not for orange
5. 1873 Steil (2009 x 2328)
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12/17/2014 5:15:57 AM
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wixom grower ( The Polish Hammer) |
Wixom MI.
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does zunino still grow ? did he have a diary ? i see a lot of red one under his name !!! how can i find him ?
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12/17/2014 12:02:03 PM
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Bubba Presley |
Muddy Waters
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The 1478.5 Clementz grows a real nice HD winner.Only 30 left
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12/17/2014 6:24:47 PM
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Dandytown |
Nottingham, UK
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wixon..... Zunino diary
http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryView.asp?season=2013&grower=28291&action=L
I did a genetics cross this year: 250 est (1107 Zunino x 1290 Poirier)
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12/18/2014 3:57:53 AM
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Orangeneck (Team HAMMER) |
Eastern Pennsylvania
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811 Gerhardt and a 1817 mcConkey. Maybe a 603.5 muller.
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12/18/2014 2:11:02 PM
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farmergal |
New England
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I don't think I am growing in 2015 but I have a small list to choose from if I decide to.
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12/18/2014 2:45:36 PM
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WiZZy |
President - GPC
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I still got a 365 webster, going to try and germ it...
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12/18/2014 2:51:59 PM
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KC Kevin |
Mission Viejo, CA
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Here's a sleeper for those wanting to grow a really great Orange fruit: 1139 (est) Laginess The cross is 980 Fredricks x 1048 Engel Both of these throw GREAT Orange
http://www.bigpumpkins.com/MsgBoard/ViewThread.asp?b=1&p=520873
you can see this fruit in afveteran's diary.
As of today, I am thinking 993 V/M x 1139 Laginess 1139 Laginess x 993 V/M
This is a bit of inbreeding...as the 1048 Engel has the 993 V/M in its family tree. What do you think?
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12/19/2014 12:48:50 PM
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Big City Grower (Team coming out of retirement ) |
JACKSON, WISCONSIN. ; )
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351 gantner 13 ... Proven 1000 pound hd winner 2014.. I think I'm. The only guy who grew it...
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12/19/2014 6:25:35 PM
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Big City Grower (Team coming out of retirement ) |
JACKSON, WISCONSIN. ; )
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Possibly my 1625... She was pretty as well... And heavy
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12/19/2014 6:28:02 PM
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Darren C (Team Big-N-Orange) |
Omaha, Ne.
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hey ya go chris Zunino's 1107 Its what I crossed for my 1399 can't wait for next year. it will be amazing!
http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=210677
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12/20/2014 12:17:46 AM
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308snpr |
Fombell, PA
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I will grow the 359 Foss, and my own seeds a cross of 1107 Zunino x 359 Foss and the 1213.5 Rea x 1107 Zunino
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12/20/2014 9:14:09 AM
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Smallmouth |
Upa Creek, Mo
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Darren, what did your 1107 male pollinator grow? I know the 400 Zunino produced the 1107 but I want to see what the 1107 grew for anyone. Thanks
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12/20/2014 9:58:36 AM
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Dandytown |
Nottingham, UK
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See my diary for the 1107x1290. Shape was like the 1107 but the colour was yellow not orange.
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12/23/2014 3:14:22 PM
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Smallmouth |
Upa Creek, Mo
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Thanks Peter for the reply. I will keep the 400 Zunino over the 1107 in the mix for next year.
First person who emails me can have my 1107 for the cost of a bubble.
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12/23/2014 7:25:47 PM
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AAA.NZ |
New Zealand
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I am growing my own 1080 A.Akkerman at the moment. It was a very orange pumpkin and I think it has a good chance of producing orange fruit. It is 1522 Sproule x 1616 Ansems. All the best to the other New Zealand growers this season.
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12/24/2014 3:58:44 AM
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Dandytown |
Nottingham, UK
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Good choice Like, I always prefer to grow the seed that grew a beauty to a seed from one
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12/24/2014 5:49:42 AM
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Dandytown |
Nottingham, UK
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Sorry 'Luke', damn autocorrect on my phone
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12/24/2014 5:51:15 AM
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abbynormal |
Johnston, R.I.
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I will grow a couple of my own, a 931 Kaczenski, a 1080 Lariviere and a few to be determined.
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12/24/2014 3:58:27 PM
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Big Orange |
Fairfield, CT, 06825
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1320 Faskell and 1544.5 Revier if I had the sqftg.
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12/25/2014 2:59:23 AM
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Big Orange |
Fairfield, CT, 06825
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1320 Faskell and 1544.5 Revier if I had the sqftg.
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12/25/2014 3:01:34 AM
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PG |
Ct
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My own:827 Gouin- which produced the 992 Gouin, 992 Gouin
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12/26/2014 3:57:48 PM
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farmergal |
New England
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I would still say the 334 Arnold is a contender for very orange. I saw a poor pollinated offspring at a weigh off this year that was oddly shaped due to pollination but it had extreme color. It was the most vigorous plant in my patch this year; just wish our weather was a little better.
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12/30/2014 8:31:06 AM
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zepfan(gary) |
Pinetops,n.c.
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907 young 2014 (1059v/m x self) 1362 lieber 2014 (1495 stelts x 2009 wallace) maybe one more
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12/30/2014 12:12:56 PM
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Doug14 |
Minnesota(dw447@fastmail.fm)
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I took last year off. I'm leaning towards growing again this year...especially since I have two 603.5 Muller 03 seeds that aren't getting any younger.
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1/23/2015 9:07:56 PM
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BillF |
Buffalo, MN (Billsbigpumpkins@hotmail.com)
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Doug, I have been saving a seed for you.
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1/23/2015 9:59:46 PM
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Richard |
Minnesota
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175brouillard (100Brouillard x 1107Zunino) will pollinate with 575Wolf.
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1/23/2015 11:39:02 PM
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Benj |
Kakabeka Falls,On. Canada.
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Have a few older seeds to try and they are, 923 Gerhardt, 1059 Vincent/McGill Hope they Germinate!
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2/14/2015 10:53:07 AM
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cheddah |
norway , maine
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575 Wolf 907 Young
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2/14/2015 11:07:15 AM
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Smallmouth |
Upa Creek, Mo
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I've seen some 923 Gehardts that grew red, Benj
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2/14/2015 12:48:21 PM
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