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Eugene,OR

With the 2145 becoming harder to get, who is planning to plant the 800 & what can we expect it to grow?

12/12/2017 1:14:39 AM

JACKSON, WISCONSIN. ; )

Mine was the biggest of 9 that made it to a scale .... and I grew 2 2145s ..... plus mine was a nice orange color until hail made them all not look so pretty I’m going to grow it again...

12/12/2017 7:20:30 PM

Eganville, Ontario

So many times the reverse cross produces nothing close to the original. How many reverses have done anything worthwhile?

1566 Rodonis and 1161 Rodonis are they only pair that come to mind.


We’ll see with the 800 as Joe grew a nice one, but I don’t think it’s a slam dunk.

12/13/2017 9:09:47 PM

Colorado

Don't know-if a few top growers grow it someone will grow a 2000lber and then the floodgates will open.

12/17/2017 12:45:48 AM

Upper Strasburg, PA

500 Wallace was a good producer. On paper, the 607 Liggett looks better than the 664, but it never got the planted enough. Pumpkin growers as a whole are moved a bit too much by first impressions. If Mathias Willemijns didn't plant that 2145 last year, we wouldn't be talking about it the same way. There could be 400 seeds in a pumpkin. Some will be outliers- at the high end of the bell curve and the low end of the bell curve. If the low end outliers are planted the first year, our minds are made up and potential records are left in the freezer

12/19/2017 3:56:58 AM

Walhalla, ND.

I agree with Truckin

12/20/2017 12:29:18 AM

Upper Strasburg, PA

I was thinking about this a little more and came up with some good examples...

The 1420/1446 cross worked both ways- 1231 Pukos, 998 Pukos, and 991 Urena

The 845/898 cross worked both ways- 1104 Hester, 1068 Wallace, and 500 Wallace

The 846/845/723 crosses worked both ways- 842 Eaton and 1260 Weir

For all we know, the 800 McMullen could actually be the better of the two- as crazy as that may sound

12/21/2017 3:46:45 AM

Rhode Island

see joe scherbers reply. a lot of seeds never get the run they deserve because they dont get planted enough.

also, we only hear of the monsters being grown but im sure for every gotta have seed grown,many of the same seed produce much smaller results.

a lot depends on you the grower.
Pap

12/28/2017 11:24:37 AM

Germany

There will be a couple 800s in the EGVGA auction on Saturday.

1/17/2018 1:19:16 AM

Germany

@truckinpunkin : 1068 Wallace/500Wallace , 2145/ 800 McMullen 1566 / 1161 Rodonis and probably 1231/998 Pukos are reverse crosses of the same two plants , in theory the genetic potential of these "twins" should be nearly the same. Other examples you mentioned are crosses coming from the same seeds,genetic differences can be much bigger ("cousins")

1/17/2018 7:05:47 AM