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Princeville, IL

Should have a female ready on the 1059. I know it is probably last one I will ever get to grow. Would like input on what you would pollinate it with. Don't want to self it as I did that 3 years ago and the offspring threw more whites thAn I liked. Have a ton of chooses including 2230 Wallace, 1810 Werner, 1385.5 H/ J, 575 Wolf, 1048 Engel, 993 V/M, 777 Young, 2106 Schmidt, 1937 Urena, 1998.5 Jutras, 359 Foss, 1044 Gansert, and several of my House seeds. Goal is a offspring that will produce beautiful Orange, nice shaped, 1000 lb range pumpkins. ( I'm not asking for much 😀 ).

7/1/2018 8:21:13 PM

Johnston, R.I.

777 or 359

7/2/2018 4:34:52 AM

Western NY

I'd personally go with something more "modern" like the 2230 or 1937. They shouldn't dilute the color much. We're in the same boat here growing our last 575. Pollinated with new stuff that should still be orange enough that the next generation won't go off color, then we'll likely pollinate next wear with traditional solid orange.

7/2/2018 9:18:23 AM

Orient, Ohio

1810 wouldn't be a bad choice either I don't think.

7/2/2018 10:47:32 AM

stoughton WI

I would go with the 1385 h/j or 1810

7/2/2018 10:54:59 AM

Colorado

575 or 359-1810 if it looks like its throwing orange

7/2/2018 11:42:19 AM

Colorado

Use it as a pollinator too:)

7/2/2018 11:42:58 AM

NE Arkansas

I'd go 2230

7/2/2018 12:52:15 PM

Hadley Ny

You have more beautiful ORANGE than you can shake a stick at...Go with one of your own!! If not I've been partial to the 359 and any Gansert or Young. The 777 has produced really nice orange and we know Mr Gansert doesn't know how to grow ORANGE.

7/2/2018 1:16:18 PM

Upa Creek, Mo

777 Young, 993 VMG or 1048 Eng.

7/2/2018 1:20:49 PM

Hadley Ny

Smallmouth..wondering why as a fairly new grower that you would choose both the 777 and 1048? 1048 is 777 selfed..proven genetics?? Just wondering

7/2/2018 1:48:30 PM

Jericho Vermont

I like the 777 (993 x 1059) but wish I had done the reverse cross when I had the two plants. So my vote would be to put the 993 into it.

7/2/2018 2:17:18 PM

Upa Creek, Mo

Yes, very proven. I've grown both the 1059 VMG and 840 Young which is the 777 Young x the 993 VMG. Bunch of the same genetics loaded up in there since 993 is the 1059 VMG's mother. The 1059 and 840 were very orange.

840
http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=209680

1059
http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=172321

7/2/2018 2:18:24 PM

Hadley Ny

Smallmouth..They are great orange genetics..but you didn't answer my question. Why the selfed over the original. An Inquiring mind wants to know. I'm very familiar with genetics from playing the ponies for 40 years.

7/2/2018 2:43:23 PM

Upa Creek, Mo

I don’t get what youre asking then. I said the 777 which is the original. The other 2 are great options and the have no idea about the shape of his current plants and how strong they are. That would factor in along with heat resilience for me. There’s no straight answer for me, but I like the lineage.

7/2/2018 2:56:52 PM

Hadley Ny

Being a fairly new grower I was just curious. You can't beat the lineage. Guess that answered my question. You get the genetics no matter which way you go.

7/2/2018 3:33:40 PM

NILES , CALIF

I too have a 1059 growing in my patch this year, it took 3 seeds to get this one to germinate.
I have a question about this 1059 did any one else, self it and grow white pumpkins from its offspring?

7/2/2018 6:21:35 PM

Jericho Vermont

I selfed it a couples of years ago and it is now the 907 Young. I believe there have been no white pumpkins as of yet and a few HD's from it. There are a couple of growers trying it this year and hopefully it will stay true. Most progeny are reddish orange.

7/2/2018 7:10:19 PM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

Must be some new guy, Luke (Smallmouth) isn’t what I’d call “a fairly new grower” I think he’s been around at least 8-10 years. Luke, how long have you been growing?

7/2/2018 11:30:54 PM

Grittyville, WA

Whatever plant is good healthy plant and has good shape and color pumpkin already... Can you tell yet if any of the pollinators you might use is going to be great? Your 504 is already burning my eyes with good color and a good shape at less than 10 dap!

7/3/2018 1:42:26 AM

Syracuse, NY

I hope it never comes up when IIIIIIIIII offer a suggestion to pollinate with a certain seed, because I'll know in advance that it'll be 'just because' or LOOSELy based on whatever research i do within the few minutes of deciding to answer someone's question, but: i THINK the roles are reversed here---in rereading, I think Big T Hoff is himself saying: "Being a fairly new grower I was just curious."---i thought the same thing also, at first. Christ, I'm afraid to say "1385 H/J"!!! Okay, back to sunny rainbows and no more bitten-off 1585 tips for me tomorrow! Think i have deer on one end of my patch and a woodchuck on the other...

7/3/2018 3:27:37 AM

Syracuse, NY

...1385 h/j...

7/3/2018 3:30:19 AM

Eastern Pennsylvania

definitely bit T was referring to himself as the new grower. To answer his question, one might consider ththe 1048 a superior pollinator strictly from a genetic standpoint because it was a larger weight than the parent and it was selfed thus somewhat solidifying this heavier trait. Same goes for isolation of the orange genes. However phenotypically the 777 has far more proven orange and size to it. And for shape I won’t even comment without reviewing them side by side which I haven’t.

7/3/2018 6:44:31 AM

Eastern Pennsylvania

Big T

7/3/2018 6:44:45 AM

Hadley Ny

I was refering to myself as the fairly new grower. I know Smallmouth has been around for a while. He answered several of my questions my first year. Only my 3rd year growing and Orangeneck hit the answer to my question right on the head. I've got 23 going this year and have grown a total of about 75-80. Mostly Orange and all Orange this year and am very familiar with genetics. Agteacher got me going with a bunch of Orange my first year and I know he's got a ton of great orange crosses. Good Luck with whatever you choose Joe.

7/3/2018 7:14:43 AM

Upa Creek, Mo

Glenn, 8 long years with no stress from mother nature. lol


Pumpkins aside, isn't current status of the plant considered when choosing a pollinator? I know it gets pretty hot where AGteacher is and I would also want something that responds well to the heat and humidity... not just a number that has been proven elswhere.

7/3/2018 8:59:36 AM

Upper Strasburg, PA

Why not set multiple pumpkins on the plant, each with different pollen? Use the 1385, 575, and 2230 or 1810

7/3/2018 1:26:45 PM

Princeville, IL

Norm made the call as I was pollinating that morning before 5 am and the 359 was one of my picks also. Many of you made me think and if the 359 doesn't take in all this heat I will rethink everything. Like the idea of a 993 x 1059 cross and vice versa plus those who think newer big orange this year and then old Orange next year also.

7/3/2018 9:40:22 PM

churchville, ny

Don't think you could beat the 993 crossed with the 1059 for color and shape but I tend to be a little "old school"

7/3/2018 10:29:49 PM

Rhode Island

i would go with andy 575 he said it was the last one he said

7/28/2018 6:22:34 PM