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Abbotsford, B.C

I don't know; is this seed still available somewhere or is there none left? I am willing to pay if someone can tell me where to go. Thanks!

9/14/2004 8:13:09 PM

Omaha, NE (N41-15-42 )

While the legality is a little grayer than it used to be, tis still taboo to buy or sell these without permission from the Dills.

There were a couple available at the niagara seminar back in March, and I almost bought one, but decided for this year, at least, that it would not be worth my wife leaving me. Might have to reassess next year. LOL!

I'm sure if you hang around for the seed auctions this winter that one or two might pop their heads. Be prepared to pay $400+ for one though.

9/14/2004 11:32:19 PM

Omaha, NE (N41-15-42 )

I should add that I am far from an expert on the legality issue though, and perhaps someone else here can better articulate with more accuracy and clarity.

9/14/2004 11:34:57 PM

Atlanta, Georgia

The replies here seem well articulated enough but I'd like to add my two cents as well...

The 898 Knauss does have the great quality of producing pumpkins that tape very heavy to the charts but there are other copies out there that are easier to get and that won't cost 400 bucks. Paying that much for a seed is a bit insane if you ask me. It may not be the real McCoy for one, and even if it is there is always the possibility that it won't germinate. In either of these cases it would be an unpleasant experience. Why not just grow something else and enjoy yourself. You can take the 400 bucks and take your family on vacation instead.
Michel

9/15/2004 1:30:58 AM

Abbotsford, B.C

Well spoken! Thank you for your replies, and I will probably follow your advice. Maybe I could see if any 898 Knauss offspring have had any heavies...

9/16/2004 12:37:31 PM

Western NY

you may also want to look into the copycat crosses. i think there are one or two seeds out there with the same cross, and i made a "refined" version of it this year. might get some plany in 2005.

9/16/2004 1:24:24 PM

Appalachian Mtns.

Now you guys know that there is no guarantee a replica will do as well as the original. It's a matter of the genes lining up just right.
Of course, one could look at the 723/845 Bobiers as an example of one that took...723 x 846 x 723...legendary

9/16/2004 3:48:43 PM

Appalachian Mtns.

Excuse me...865 Mettler x 935 Lloyd, *original* legendary.

9/16/2004 3:49:39 PM

Appalachian Mtns.

Argghh...935 x 865.
I need a nap.

9/16/2004 3:50:15 PM

Minnesota(dw447@fastmail.fm)

Were the 723 Bobier and the 845 Bobier the same cross?
Is it pretty safe to say that a selfed or sibbed seed is very close to the original?
I have a 845 Bobier sibbed seed(1100 Bobier).
Also is sibbing a seed more desireable than a selfing seed?

Doug

9/16/2004 7:16:27 PM

Cincinnati,OH

The 723 and 845 are the same cross. Remakes, selfs and sibs are close to the original but some do better than others. I'd plant that 1100 Bobier it's probably a good one.

9/16/2004 8:08:33 PM

caro mi.

i have a 1100 bobier seed , did anyone grow it this year ? havent heard one thing about this seed .

9/16/2004 8:22:19 PM