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Joliet, IL

has anyone grown 2 seeds from the same pumpkin and
and selfed one plant and sibbed the other plant and then
crossed them both the following year?

would it be better to self both and cross both selfed
the following year?

or cross one sib with the other sib?

take the 1446 for example with seed 1446(1) and 1446(2)

a) [1446(1) x 1446(1)] X [1446(2) x 1446(1)]= 1446(1121)
b) [1446(1) x 1446(1)] X [1446(2) x 1446(2)]= 1446(1122)
c) [1446(1) x 1446(2)] X [1446(2) x 1446(1)]= 1446(1221)

this same example could be expanded to 4 seeds from
the same pumpkin to make it more complex, but for now
let me know what you think about the self/sib possibilities
for 2 seeds from the same pumpkin.

choose a) b) or c) and please explain your logic or
instincts.

thanks
jeff

11/26/2004 1:08:09 PM

Cornwall UK.(50N 5W)300ft.

d)112212.(two on one plant)
Because you won't know which was the best cross possible until October.

Just my thoughts

11/26/2004 2:22:07 PM

Cornwall UK.(50N 5W)300ft.

That was for year 1,I wouldn't decide what to grow in year two until after year 1.Hope this makes sense

11/26/2004 2:36:00 PM

Cornwall UK.(50N 5W)300ft.

O.K. I will have to use more than my usual one sentance.
If you grow two seeds from one plant and one is better than the other you only want the genetics from the good one.If you selfed the bad one and sibbed the good one there is nowhere to go.

11/26/2004 3:02:06 PM

Hensler North Dakota

Do a search here on Bp.com for hybred vigor and line breeding. You should be able to answer your questions.

11/26/2004 3:50:33 PM

Indiana

all these 1's and 2's, and 4's, and 6's...I'm getting a headache...LOL

Tom

11/26/2004 4:49:33 PM

Joliet, IL

1, 2, 4, 6,...this shouldn't be too difficult for your
brain Tom, isn't that how Hoosiers count to ten? LOL

11/27/2004 8:40:08 AM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

lol

11/27/2004 9:11:47 AM

Indiana

Hoosiers cant count to 10! Just ask Carlos!

11/27/2004 10:49:31 AM

Pumpkintown, SC

My 2 cents would start with the question: What are you trying to accomplish?
I might suggest that a desired goal be established before a game plan put into force.
Homozygosity? Keep selfing
Line- Breeding? Sib then self then self
A little over simplified...but you get the idea. BF

11/27/2004 8:38:36 PM

Joliet, IL

thanx all,
i just was trying to figure out how much inbreeding
you can get away with before it is detrimental to
the strain. no sense growing yellowhammmers, so to
speak.
shazzy

11/28/2004 12:52:15 AM

mcminnville oregon

Good question

12/18/2004 12:23:51 AM