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Farmerville, Louisiana

will adding decomposed horse manure to my patch add to help my phosphurus level results posed about 5 post down

11/18/2007 8:13:46 PM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

N .7 P 0.3 K 0.6

Remember Nitrogen leaches more than P and K

11/18/2007 10:31:34 PM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

It will bring your levels up to where you want, but you need to get that PH to around 7.0

11/18/2007 10:35:02 PM

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

You want more P?

11/18/2007 10:54:50 PM

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

I took some averages of those samples I got. Over 500 samples, the average P level was 232.838 ppm.

11/18/2007 11:00:32 PM

Farmerville, Louisiana

jordan
my phosphorus is 313.80 ppm
my potassium is 251.60 ppm
aren't they aready too high

11/19/2007 7:46:36 AM

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

Yeah, too high. I read the post from Shannon and it said adding manure will bring your levels up to where you want. Adding manure will bring them up, but they are high enough already.

Average K levels were 529, so you could go up there. The thing with most non chem ferts is that they add to more than one thing, like N, P, and K. If you only want one, its harder to figure out.

The horse manure is not bad since the P is the lowest part. I looked at more samples that had fruit weights attached to them, looks like several 1000+ have been grown with a P level between 400-600 ppm.

I guess the horse manure will be ok. I would add a bunch of gypsum and lime to bring the Ca and pH levels up too.

11/19/2007 10:07:04 AM

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

I guess averages are not the be all and end all, just a good place to be.

11/19/2007 10:07:53 AM

Farmerville, Louisiana

thanks

11/19/2007 10:47:07 AM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

A diagnosis is being made of your soil with out all the proper information. All soils are not the same.. Sand, Loam or Clay it all matters.

11/19/2007 1:54:32 PM

Farmerville, Louisiana

now i confused as hell!!!!!!!! i'm going to get the horse manure in the morning addind 200# lime and then{laissez les bons temps rouler}

11/19/2007 2:08:31 PM

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

Well, Shannon, you said something like, It will bring your levels up to where you want, but you need to get that PH to around 7.0

Sounds like a diagnosis too, you can only work with what you have.

BO try the activity in this pdf: http://extension.usu.edu/aitc/teachers/pdf/dirt/texture5.pdf

It will help you figure out what your soil type is. Then you can post again.

11/19/2007 4:50:18 PM

Farmerville, Louisiana

soil type is {very fine sandy loam}

11/19/2007 7:38:29 PM

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

I think your soil is in a pretty good place.

From U of Florida:
As the relative percentages of silt and/or clay particles become greater, properties of soils are increasingly affected. Finer-textured soils generally are more fertile, contain more organic matter, have higher cation exchange and buffer capacities, are better able to retain moisture and nutrients, and permit less rapid movement of air and water. All of this is good up to a point

Your soil has the good parts of soil textures towards loams, but it can still drain because of the sand. Its, in my opinion (which is only backed by what I have read) pretty good from a texture point of view.

Whats your CEC?

11/19/2007 8:04:25 PM

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

When I say, I think your soil is in a pretty good place, thats from a text point of view only. You still need to ammend for your nutrients.

11/19/2007 8:05:21 PM

Farmerville, Louisiana

whats cec

11/20/2007 8:14:01 AM

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

Cation Exchange Capacity (CEC) is used basically as measure of fertility and nutrient retention capacity.

11/20/2007 1:40:39 PM

Farmerville, Louisiana

nothing like that listed on my test results

11/20/2007 3:10:34 PM