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Honesdale, Pennsylvania

It seems like squash generally go heavy to the charts compared to pumpkins. Are there any studies out there or does it just seem that way to me.

9/21/2010 3:18:59 PM

Eastern Pennsylvania

I sure hope you're right Ned.

9/22/2010 1:54:15 PM

Honesdale, Pennsylvania

Our 1177 Haist was a "rock" and went 18 percent heavy. I like this squash growing thing. Thanks to Karl for the seed and giving us our first 1000 pound anything.
The 1082.9 Sandercock 2010 ( Do they call that 1083?) (1177 Haist x self)

9/29/2010 9:27:25 AM

Lexington, Ky

Hey Ned, I've been looking for a photo of yours, got any? You and Alex did a fine job!

9/29/2010 11:00:08 AM

Honesdale, Pennsylvania

I just put several photos under my diary "Ned".

9/29/2010 11:28:05 AM

Lexington, Ky

Ned, they are posted now, thank you. Nice looking Squash! Great job of keeping her concealed ;} I had a feeling that there was something green behind those t-shirts this summer!
Congrats on getting the monkey off your back, I know how that feels.

Jamie

9/29/2010 12:44:06 PM

Mercersburg, PA

what was the cross on the 1177??

9/29/2010 1:15:40 PM

Honesdale, Pennsylvania

Its the 1177 Haist x self

9/29/2010 2:18:28 PM

Ohio

1177 Haist (08)(1028* Johnson (06) x 409* Haist (06)).
1028* Johnson (06)(824* Brunst (05) x Self).
409* Haist (06)(????)

9/29/2010 2:22:11 PM

Eddyz@efirehose.net

Ned
The top 4 Squash were all heavy to the charts with the greatest percent heavy was the 1177 Haist which was 15.1 percent heavy. So your fruit has carried on the trait.
My take on this is because Squash have a tendancy to grow at a more even rate without the radical spurts of 50 or greater pounds per day that pumpkins do.
The exception to this in squash in the 1131 Urena, By measurement it was the largest squash ever grown, it taped 1307 but actually weighed 1131, which was 13.45% light.
This I attribute to weather.

9/29/2010 2:25:08 PM

Honesdale, Pennsylvania

Thanks for the info Eddy and the cross on the 1177 Joe. I typed before I thought. The cross on my squash is the 1177 x self.

9/29/2010 2:47:23 PM

Picton,ON (j.vincent@xplornet.ca)

I weighed my 735* fruit on Saturday (As a pumpkin as it didn't meet the colour rule), and it went 17% heavy! This is line produces consistent heavy squmpkins, with identity crisis's. I believe it goes back to the 824 Brunst side. I see some white peeking through on the 1082.9! Anyway, congrats Ned on your big squash.

John

9/29/2010 2:55:17 PM

Picton,ON (j.vincent@xplornet.ca)

The above post should have read 785* fruit

785* Vincent-McGill (+13%)= 995* Vincent x 800* Neiley
995* (+3%) = 848* Mackenzie x 898* Vincent
898* (+8.3%) = 824* Brunst x 552* Sherwood

9/29/2010 3:02:28 PM

Germany

Another heavy Vincent-McGill seed : I weighed my smallest Squash at our regional Weigh-off last saturday and was realy surprised : 710* Preis ( 1236*Vincent-McGill x 684* Preis ) was 17,3% over est.

9/29/2010 5:22:02 PM

Ohio

I grew a 636* Welty from 1997, my first attempt at a squash. It split at day 35, and I picked it at day 42. It taped an est. 490#, it was weighed on an inline scale and came in at 634#, it went 29% heavy. I crossed it with a 428* Wells from 1999.

9/29/2010 8:02:41 PM

Long Island,New York

Sure like to know who judged that a squash...not a squash by "True Green" or "Green Jacket" rules if the pictures Ive seen are true to color........."100% green grey or blue with allowances for the classic white striping and flecking of the old squash lines...not counting areas at the ground level..

9/29/2010 9:03:07 PM

Somerset,Ky

Looks like a mostly white with some green to me but
i'm not a squash grower ether

9/29/2010 9:59:51 PM

Honesdale Pa USA

No question wether its a squash or not. The picture doesn't do it justice. I've seen alot of squash in person,including this one and I assure you this is a squash. I believe Andy Wolf, Joe Pukos, and Bill Bobier were the main judges and I know they have seen one or two squash!

9/29/2010 10:24:57 PM

Long Island,New York

Ned- Is there any question as to whether it matches the color rule?

9/30/2010 7:33:11 AM

Honesdale, Pennsylvania

Not even a question and not going to get into that one here. The photos were taken with a flash if that matters. When we weighed it in Cooperstown the blossom side was underneath as that is how we had to load it so the side showing was the bottom. The judges did take a look at the blossom side when she was lifted up. It was planted as a squash, grew as a squash and finished up as a squash. It was green, with grey striping. No white, yellow or orange included. I guesss I shouldn't have posted a picture. You really can't judge it from a photo.

9/30/2010 8:02:37 AM

Long Island,New York

Please send me representative photos for consideration for the Green Jacket/Squash Trophy. LIpumpkin@msn.com

9/30/2010 10:00:00 AM

Rocky-r@stny.rr.com

Ned, g,

My son grew the 1177 squash and ended up at 915 pounds last year. The color rule is covered as the white people are seeing in the pic is actually grey. It is not white folks. I know Ned won't get into this, but I will say this much, the fruit is definitely squash by the green jacket rules. Is it green through and through, no. Is it a pumpkin that went green at the end? NO. Look at the younger pics of the fruit and you will see. It is a honeydew melon looking thing. It never waivered from its squash genes.

Congrats Ned, I hope it holds up, you will look good in green.

10/1/2010 7:23:00 AM

Lexington, Ky

I believe bigger squash are yet to be weighed, this may not be an issue in a few weeks.

10/1/2010 11:11:40 AM

Honesdale, Pennsylvania

Me too.

10/1/2010 12:16:58 PM

Claysburg , PA

1177 Haist seed has been giving SQUASH growers a big percentage over the chart. Thats why if I grow next year, it will be in the patch.

10/1/2010 12:30:56 PM

Indiana

I get what G is saying, but its a sad sad day for me when people question this fruit. Its obviously a greenie, and I know G knows that. How can we change this rule so that all fruit that are botanically a squash (green from the get go) are ruled a squash without question.

10/1/2010 3:03:28 PM

Indiana

PS I have a true squash that is now white as white gets. I wouldnt even think to enter it as a squash under the current rule. If I ever got one worth entering, I would like it to be ruled a squash as it is. How can we correct this?

Yeas ago, I believe it was G that suggested we look at it from what color it was at day 10. Others suggested looking at the base color at the ribs.

I suggest we do both what G suggested and have a panel that reviews questionable fruit via photos, lineage, etc. I really hate to see Ned's accomplishment even be questioned.

10/1/2010 3:07:47 PM

Northern California Foothills

Botanically speaking all atlantic giants are squashes...

10/1/2010 6:47:45 PM

Pennsylvania

No doubt it was a squash with grey striping

10/3/2010 10:46:42 PM