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Claysburg , PA

I`m thinking about trying a squash seed that throws really heavy % next year but the color issue is driving me nuts. Are the Green Jacket and GPC rules the same ? What grey/white striping is o.k. ? I`d hate to take a squash to the weighoff and have them say its a pumpkin.

Thanks for any help ...

12/14/2010 9:00:58 AM

Long Island,New York

LOL...they are supposed to be the same but.........

12/14/2010 10:34:21 AM

Lexington, Ky

I was afraid of the grey/white issue when I decided to go green last year. My decision to grow the 895 Hester was based simply on not being able to find any photos of 895 offspring that had white or grey. Each photo that I found shows a very nice undeniably green specimen. The percent heavy didn't factor into my decision. I later learned that the 895 goes either side of and right on chart.

How the questionable color specimens are classified is up to the site judges. It would suck if you grow a true greenie and get beat by a pound with a grey/white/greenie. I haven't studied the data in depth but it does seem that the grey/white/green's do go heavy....

12/14/2010 12:10:00 PM

Picton,ON (j.vincent@xplornet.ca)

The GPC feels that we have some inconsistency with the interpretation of the colour rule, which we plan to review at Niagara this year. The white striping mentioned in the rules refer to striping in the base of the ribs only and not on the top of the ribs. Mottling is also characteristic of some squash and is acceptable. The reason the rule was changed to its current version, was to promote the growing of true green genetic lines.

Squash with a lot of 824 Brunst tend to be colour challenged, but also go very heavy!

12/15/2010 10:01:27 PM

Long Island,New York

Before you guys nail down white striping to only between the ribs remember there are pumpkin lawyers out there. There is white striping thats not in the creases/base? of the ribs too.

12/16/2010 6:00:07 AM

Deer Park WA

Great post! I am not a lawyer (lol @ Glen) however we are true green believers. Here is what Gerry and I believe a "Squash" looks like.

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=100728

12/16/2010 10:20:56 PM

Honesdale, Pennsylvania

I would love to see the 824 Brunst crossed with the 1177 Haist. They both are known to throw big heavy squash with many high on the GPC list. It would have to be a great cross. Does anyone know of any out there? It may be worth a try.

12/17/2010 8:49:14 AM

Soldiers Grove, WI

The 824 Brunst is the grandmother to the 1177 Haist. The mother to the 1177 Haist is the 1028 Johnson. The 1028 Johnson is 824 Brunst x self. One to try might be the 1082.9 Sandercock which is 1177 Haist x self.

12/17/2010 10:42:30 AM

Honesdale, Pennsylvania

Thanks for the info on the family tree. I think you are right. I definately am going to be giving that 1082.9 a try, it should be a good one :)

12/17/2010 10:51:49 AM

Long Island,New York

As mentioned in a popular thread in general discussion by the current world record holder the 824 Brunst line is color challenged. Perhaps you'll get by with the GPC rule but you should plant with caution. Perhaps instead of adding more questionable color you should consider adding back the real green color? That would follow Quinn's suggestions of crossing the color back in after getting the big and heavy....and as he stated it would be a step towards levels of the giant pkn.

12/17/2010 9:20:46 PM

Jefferson Me

Ned you will see it this season. I have both and if they germinate and pollinate it's a done deal! I'm also going to plant the 915Haist (800Neily*X1177Haist) and hopefully pollinate with the 824Brunst.

12/17/2010 10:27:32 PM