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Lebanon, Oregon

Last year I grew my first tomato variety cross. It was a 7.15 White (Big Zac) x 4.66 Spaziani (Oxheart). The tomato wasn't big, just 2.06 lbs. I wasn't going for size, just for the seed cross. A picture of the tomato is here: http://www.bigpumpkins.com/Diary/DiaryViewOne.asp?eid=281383

I documented how I crossed the two on my Garden Rebel diary from last year on July 13th.
Just curious what these seeds will grow, you never know, so I need a few people to grow them. The first 8 people to request seeds at rickspaziani@yahoo.com will get 5 seeds. Just send me your email and I will get them out in the next couple of weeks. Thank you.

1/13/2018 1:40:23 PM

Wixom MI.

Hey rick i will give ot a try lwt me know if you need my address or not !!!

1/13/2018 2:42:41 PM

Lebanon, Oregon

#1 Chris. Yes, have your address.

1/13/2018 2:54:23 PM

Oak Grove, Mn

I will put one into my garden if you willing to part with a seed. I like trying new crosses. If you need my address, let me know.

1/13/2018 2:56:44 PM

Lebanon, Oregon

#2 Rob. Yes, I have your address. I am willing to part with 5 seeds per person.

1/13/2018 3:07:56 PM

Bloomington Indiana

Hi Rebel, Yes I will try some let me know. do you need my address or bubble?

1/13/2018 4:35:57 PM

Lebanon, Oregon

#3 No bubble, just your address.

1/13/2018 7:41:28 PM

Eastern Shore of VA

I’m interested Rebel.

1/13/2018 9:54:44 PM

Lebanon, Oregon

#4 Awesome ESheel31! Could you please send me your mailing address to my above email then I could get them out to you.

1/13/2018 10:36:03 PM

Eastern Shore of VA

Email sent Rebel.
Thanks.

1/13/2018 10:55:08 PM

Owensboro, Ky.

Mr. Rebel, sir...just sent an email...let me know? Peace, Wayne

1/14/2018 1:00:22 AM

Lebanon, Oregon

#5 Wayne, please send your mailing address so I can get the seeds to you.

1/14/2018 9:01:15 AM

Western Massachusetts

email will be sent!

1/16/2018 10:49:21 AM

Lebanon, Oregon

#6 Hayden, received your address. Seeds sent soon. Wayne, I still need your mailing address. I cannot send seeds through an email attachment.

1/16/2018 1:04:02 PM

Lebanon, Oregon

...and Hayden, will send some extra seeds in addition to the cross.

1/16/2018 1:06:09 PM

Hobart, Indiana

Interested. Email sent. Thanks.

1/16/2018 9:03:06 PM

Western Massachusetts

Thank you so much

1/16/2018 9:28:56 PM

Lebanon, Oregon

#7 Steve O.

1/17/2018 12:35:28 AM

central Nc

email sent

1/17/2018 3:07:47 PM

Lebanon, Oregon

#8 NCgarderner (Josh?) email received. You are on the list. Please send your mailing address so I can send your seeds.

1/17/2018 5:14:44 PM

Lebanon, Oregon

I have my 8 requests for 40 seeds all together. I will get them out next Wednesday.
Peace, Wayne Please send me your mailing address if you want seeds. Thanks.

1/17/2018 5:18:37 PM

Oak Grove, Mn

All right, 8 seed packages available and all spoken for. Lets have a contest. I happen to have a few extra seeds available (actually I have a lot..but we won't go there). Unless Rick disagrees, I will put up a 1625.5 Gantner pumpkin seed to the grower that grows the biggest Zac Heart in 2018. If he is willing, I will send the seed to him, and he can keep track of the results and since he has the addresses can mail the prize to the winning grower. What do you say Rick..contest?...you would be the eligible for competitition...9 growers only.

1/17/2018 5:31:01 PM

Lebanon, Oregon

Sure! That's a good start bnot. Now there are two additional people not of this 8 that seeds will be sent to also (A Clinton NY individual, Hmmm.. and another). Including myself will be 11. I will have to contact them to see if they are in. If Peace, Wayne doesn't check back in there will only be only 10. If there is more interest I may be able to spare a few more seeds. Either way we can make it work. I have some seeds in my stash also, but will look into the unusual like a glass tomato paper weight! Maybe an Oregon sunstone gem that I found and had faceted.

1/17/2018 5:53:02 PM

Oak Grove, Mn

I don't think we have to worry about that Clinton, NY grower...I think he only knows how to grow Domingoes. This could be fun. I will get the Gantner seed to you in the mail this weekend. Are you going to give us any clues on your observations of how to determine Oxheart characteristics vs Big Zac. With wixom's crosses..I can really tell the difference of the plants that have the MegaMarv gene in them. I am really going to be interested to see what the characteristics of the Oxheart gene is.

1/17/2018 6:01:05 PM

Lebanon, Oregon

A few years ago this seed was brought over from a friend from Russia. It is a prolific grower and producer. The fruit really responds to plant trimming when the plant is reduced to a couple of fruit. Able to grow a 4.66 the first year out. The leaves are rather ugly should I say?
Long and lanky. It doesn't seem to like bright summer sun for some reason. I think it originated from a cooler Russian climate. Originally didn't produce megablooms but one large bloom per cluster.

1/17/2018 6:44:21 PM

Eastern Shore of VA

The 4.66 was a single larger blossom?
Have you noticed Mega blossoms in the offspring?
Wonder if it would do better as a fall planting if it’s use to cooler climates.

1/17/2018 8:14:43 PM

Lebanon, Oregon

The 4.66 was a single blossom. Last year I planted 3. One of them had multi-blooms on almost all trusses. One of them I let grow. Going nice until a deer ate it. I let another smaller mega bloom go late into the season and it grew to a few pounds. Kept seeds. Another grower reported multi blooms on his from the 4.66. Thinking in 2015 first season it inadvertently crossed with a Big Zac and some of the 4.66 are throwing megablooms.

1/17/2018 9:06:50 PM

Mn

Ahhhh crap - you snooze you loose - let me know if peace Wayne drops out I’ll get in on some of this action

1/17/2018 9:52:17 PM

Lebanon, Oregon

Yes, Snoozing in the great white north. What else are you going to do? If I don't hear from P.W. in the next week ur in (I have your address and will send seeds).

1/18/2018 1:09:35 AM

central Nc

Thanks Rick. Been growing maters for years, but a first time trying giants. FYI if anybody needs it, lots of used copies of Meisner's book are on Amazon cheap. Just got mine for $5 shipped.

1/18/2018 9:29:43 AM

central Nc

by the way, that's a stink bug in your diary. hate those things.

1/18/2018 9:37:41 AM

Eastern Shore of VA

Sounds like fun.
Let’s do this.

1/18/2018 6:46:47 PM

Eastern Shore of VA

Or known as a squash bug too.
Loves curcurbits,but I have found them on tomatoes too.
Lays eggs in little clusters on the undersides of leaves.

1/19/2018 7:03:03 AM

Eastern Shore of VA

Bifenthrin takes them out.

1/19/2018 7:03:39 AM

central Nc

No, squash bugs and stink bugs are very similar but not the same. You won't find squash bugs on your ceiling this winter, but I'm having a hard time with stink bugs.

1/19/2018 8:27:24 AM

Dodge city

I want some. Naterschalr992@gmail.com

1/19/2018 8:34:59 AM

Eastern Shore of VA

Did not know there was a difference.

1/19/2018 11:47:37 AM

Lebanon, Oregon

#9 Q-Tip. Seed sent next week.

1/19/2018 12:29:25 PM

Lebanon, Oregon

#10 Nathan..seeds sent next week. That's it! No more requests please. I will get seeds out next week except for Peace, Wayne because he doesn't have an address. I will hold them until you are ready to grow them.

1/19/2018 12:32:59 PM

Lebanon, Oregon

Q-Tip. I meant "seeds".

1/19/2018 12:33:44 PM

Lebanon, Oregon

Yes, they are stink bugs, thanks. Two years ago, there were none. This year they appear on the ceiling and around the lights.

1/19/2018 12:36:15 PM

Oak Grove, Mn

I held back on suggesting a growing contest with a decent prize until I thought those that were most interested in growing new crosses had claimed all the seeds. Looks like a grower in Italy might be interested in whoever grows the biggest of this cross this year (at least he would be interested in the first place prize).The growers that are getting these seeds, lets have fun. The F1 seeds should be very equivalent. I think it is F2 where the big differences will show. Two years ago, I grew F1's MegaDom, MegaZac and WixomSlammer..my PB was set with a Wixom Slammer. Last year I tried f2 of the previous group, and also F1's of Megamutt D and Megamutt Z, my personal best was set with the Megamutt D, I think it would be great if my new PB was set with a Zac Heart. I have had success with the F1's crosses. Maybe by next spring I can get done my planned...Brutus Magnum-Delicious crossed with a Megamutt D...or maybe the Zac Heart will throw my plans all out the window. This is new territory...lets share our observations.

1/19/2018 5:52:22 PM

Eastern Shore of VA

All for it bnot.
I think my watermelon patch is filling up with tomatoes!

1/19/2018 6:21:28 PM

Newcastle, CA

It's a Brown Marmorated Stink bug. Check my 2017 December entry for pix.

Also, I'm the "other guy" with Zac Heart seeds. Sounds like a fun contest and I will be growing this variety this upcoming season.

1/19/2018 6:25:54 PM

Lebanon, Oregon

It's on BNOT! I will put out a post soon. There is a mix of growers, experienced and newer ones. Twelve total including myself. If another serious experienced grower wants in to test these I do have a few seeds left...email me.

1/19/2018 6:33:01 PM

Owensboro, Ky.

Mr. Rebel Sir, sorry for slow response...mom is back in hospital. I just sent mailing addy to your email addy! Thanks so much!! Peace, Wayne

1/20/2018 12:57:43 AM

Lebanon, Oregon

No problem Wayne, I knew you would come around. Sorry about your mom. Hang in there.

1/20/2018 1:28:27 AM

Mn

Sorry to hear about your Mom Wayne - hope she gets well - rebel send the seeds to Wayne - I’ll get in on the next comp

1/20/2018 7:26:35 AM

Eastern Shore of VA

Hope all goes well with your mom Wayne.

1/20/2018 7:44:26 AM

Lebanon, Oregon

Q Tip.. Wayne and your envelopes are filled and will be sent out Monday.

1/20/2018 12:56:52 PM

Mn

Sweet - I can throw in some seeds for contest winners too - I’ll have to go open up the vault :)

1/20/2018 3:40:01 PM

Eastern Shore of VA

That would be awesome Qtip.
I don’t have very many seeds in my vault.
Mostly watermelon seeds.
But there might be a couple worthwhile ones in there.

1/20/2018 6:35:36 PM

Western Massachusetts

Hope your mom is okay Wayne :)

1/20/2018 8:24:46 PM

Wixom MI.

Thanks rick i got the seeds yesterday.

1/27/2018 11:55:20 PM

Owensboro, Ky.

Mom is back home, and seeds arrived!!!! Double bonus!!! Peace, Wayne

1/28/2018 1:08:17 AM

Newcastle, CA

I've got three ZacHearts growing.

2/22/2018 7:25:31 PM