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South Hill, Virginia

I guess we better start getting together the VWO 2005 (don't know what the VWO is? Go to SeedOutlet.com and read about the Virtual Weighoff from 2004) so I will need your help.

Last year went very well so I would like to use the same format. That means we need to put together a contest pack of top notch seeds including 4 pumpkin and 2 squash seeds (and by "squash" i mean true green squash like the 874.5 Dieffenbaugher 2004).

I will also need prizes. Seeds are the most popular of course and the easiest to distribute. I prefer that all prizes be sent to me so I can guarantee that they will be distributed at seasons end. Please e-mail me at svrich@yahoo.com with any donations you can make. Please help out....it's not much of a contest without something to win.

Now what I would like on this thread is any offer by a grower of seeds to be grown in the contest. You will need be able to commit 100 of the seeds so keep that in mind before offering. Any unrequested ones will be returned. I will give this thread about a week to get all the offers and then I will post a separate thread where everyone can vote for their favorites. Top four pumpkins and top two squash make the cut.

Please post your offer below along with info about your seed like parentage and anything else you think makes it promising.

1/26/2005 8:19:33 PM

Greencastle, PA

I could contribute seeds from my 298 (963 Stucker x 1061.5 Ciliberto). It was 52% heavy and the largest in the state with no care for the last 6 weeks. The 1061.5 pollinator grew a 119 (reverse of the 298) which was 70% heavy. The 963 and 1061 have both grown 1000lb fruit. The grandparents are 935 Lloyd, 723 Bobier, and 801.5 Stelts. There are pics in my diary, both had pretty nice shape and color. I can also contribute prizes. Let me know if there's anything in particular you're looking for for prizes.
Tom

1/26/2005 8:50:51 PM

Eddyz@efirehose.net

I think it would be fitting that the winner have her seed used, if she wants to put it up.

And if John 5150 is in agreement we will do the fishing trip or $150.00 again for the biggest fruit of any color

Eddy

1/26/2005 10:16:18 PM

Buffalo, MN (Billsbigpumpkins@hotmail.com)

Seeds from the winning VWO pumpkin in 2004 are already in the mail. If you need more let me know. Billf

1/26/2005 10:58:29 PM

Rocky-r@stny.rr.com

I will put up 100 of my 629 squash (true green - Hester 895 X self) and 100 of my 561 pumpkin (Bobier 845 X Knauss 898) for the VWO.

1/26/2005 11:28:47 PM

So. Maine

HEY ROCK , GO PATS !!!!!

I will offer 100 seeds from my 825 from 2004, 1301 Whittier crossed with the Berard 890 (Dark orange)

And, or , my 703 from 2004, 978.6 Berard crossed with the 1385 Daletas, (another dark orange). I have digital photos of both if needed.

1/27/2005 1:30:45 AM

Hilpoltstein, Bavaria, Germany

I can offer my 269 Reiss 04 (810 Dill 99 X 1016 Daletas 01). Unfortunaltely this was the only pumpkin with a decent seed count in 2004...

Martin

1/27/2005 3:27:03 AM

Ontario, Canada.

Brent, nice to see you back.

I can offer my true green.

695* Landry 04, 771 Stelphlug x 675 Hester.

Russ Landry

1/27/2005 4:43:45 AM

Halifax, Nova Scotia

I think Boily needs to offer up his 298 Boytons from the sideviner that just went down on him. It's a sure way to get them into the hands of growers that will use them. Anybody else see the potential in a 845 Bobier x 1301.5 Eaton cross for the VWO?

1/27/2005 7:41:48 AM

Ontario

I'll offer 100 of my 1058.8 Papez 04. 898 knauss x 805 pukos

Male pollinator produced the 1201 dmg dueck which went 14 percent heavy for its size. The 1058.8 was 2 percent heavy for its size. Good heavy cross here with lots of potential

drew

1/27/2005 8:23:16 AM

Walkerton Ont

theres a good cross Drew, that would be a good cross

1/27/2005 8:52:39 AM

Edmonton, Canada

I like the idea of Boily's 298. Talk about potential.

1/27/2005 9:16:24 AM

Utah

Brent,

I will offer seeds from my: 891 Tanner 2004- (735 Pukos 2001 x self)
and my 906 Tanner 2004- (963 Stucker 2002 x 845 Bobier uow 2000)

gordon

1/27/2005 9:30:39 AM

Eugene,OR

1058 Papez sounds like something I would grow!

1/27/2005 10:40:08 AM

Southeast

I can offer the following seed.. 827 Garrell 801.5 Stelts x 875.5 Lloyd ( 846 Calai remake) 855 GarrellDMG 705 Stelts x 846 Calai ( 1016 Daletas remake), 598 Garrell 723 Bobier x 846 Calai.Lotsof goodlooking seeds already being offered. Dave

1/27/2005 10:47:21 AM

Jaffrey NH

I know that there is plenty of seeds offered but I also have seeds if you want or need any. They are 862.2 Kabat (988 Reinsborough X 854 Reinsborough) and others.

1/27/2005 11:31:19 AM

South Hill, Virginia

Keep offering. I will just be a nicer selection for everyone to choose from. I'm hoping Beachy stops by and offers something impressive.

1/27/2005 12:07:03 PM

Knopp, Germany

i agree Brent, and thank you for doing this service for our pumpkin growing community, it is greatly appreaciated.

1/27/2005 12:28:16 PM

Eugene,OR

Rich: I’d like to offer up my 873.5 Pugh seeds for the VWO. The cross is 845 Bobier x 963 Stucker. The 963 Stucker is 935 Lloyd x 801.5 Stelts and the 845 of course is 935 Lloyd x 865 Mettler…so the 873.5 is loaded with 935 Lloyd with 801.5 Stelts thrown in. Both the 845 and 963 plant which were the parents of the 873.5 plant were problem free and great plants. I think that the seed has great potential and would love to see it widely grown. If you use it as one of the VWO seeds I’ll throw in $100 for the person who grows the largest fruit from the 873.5 seed this year as well. I have plenty of them and they are ready to go, just give me the word!

-Russ Pugh

1/27/2005 1:06:56 PM

Halifax, Nova Scotia

Vineman, the seeds were probably enough to attract some interest, with the $100 thrown in, you've got my vote!

1/27/2005 1:37:33 PM

Massillon, Ohio

Eddy, me and you are on the same page. i was hoping for that !!!


when i was at seedoutlet.com i saw brent had over 30 of my seeds left. he can use those 30 and i can send 70 more to make 100. i would be very honored to see my seed be used as a squash option.

VOTE DIEFF FOR SQUASH !!

1/27/2005 2:30:15 PM

Utah

oh great- now we have to pay to have someone grow our seeds?

1/27/2005 3:30:08 PM

Nova Scotia

I can offer my 536.2 seeds 100 seeds no problem high seed count the cross is 752 Blair X 598 polka let me know Jeff

1/27/2005 4:10:59 PM

South Hill, Virginia

Gordon,

I think he just adding some interest to the contest. There has to be some reward to make it interesting and I think we've seen similar offers in the past.

Brent

1/27/2005 4:13:56 PM

South Hill, Virginia

BTW Gordon....for $10 bucks i will plant one of your seeds in a one gallon pot. $20 will get you a 10 gallon pot. for $50 you will also get a picture of me holding the 10 gallon pot.

1/27/2005 4:23:12 PM

Eddyz@efirehose.net

Ok can't resist. Please tell us your not going to take pictures like Mike Frantz did. Please don't pay the $50.00
LOL
Eddy

1/27/2005 7:39:38 PM

Rich I'll offer the 366 Van 03 est.seed 935 Lloyd X 865 Mettler for the VWO
(These are the 723 - 845 Remake)
Only two grown I know of are 701.5 Picketts & the 503 Paynter which was 16.8% heavy.

Bill

1/27/2005 8:54:11 PM

Cornelius, Oregon

I would offer up the following seeds to the VWO, but I do keep track of seeds, so requests would need to come here for them....Aren't I a pain...
675 Hester 2002 SQ (895 Hester Sibbed)first 100 growers
474.5 Hester 1999 SQ (738 Stellpflug x 900 Lyons) first 100 growers
610 Hester 2002 PK (705 Stelts x 1075 Daletas) first 100 growers
438 Hester 1999 (935 Lloyd x 990 Bax) first 100

Brett
384 Hester 2003 (846 Calai x 582 Hester) first 100

1/27/2005 9:20:15 PM

South Hill, Virginia

Heh heh Eddy....I wouldn't wish that picture on anyone!

1/27/2005 11:02:06 PM

Rexburg, Idaho (brianchristensenmd@gmail.com )

I have the following that might be interesting
777 Christensen (927 Larue x 1016 Daletas)
709 Christensen (735 Pukos x 1016 Daletas)

1/27/2005 11:02:26 PM

Indiana

I would like to offer the following:

488 Beachy 2004
F-551.5 Beachy 2003(845 x 935)
M-845 Bobier 2000

Last year I offered the 237, and it did very well for those that grew it. This year I am offering what I think is my best seed of the year. The 488 was grown in the genetics field and performed #5 out of about 150 genetics plants. Any of you statistics people know how great that is. The male pollinator grew the 1011 Beachy this year. Both pumpkins were over 10% heavy. Upon internal inspection both the 488 and the 1011 had neither internal tears nor blossom cones. This is very rare for me, let alone to cross those traits together. If you look at the 488 notice that its a second generation crossback. Very thick, very consistant, and hopefully very heavy is what I expect in this seed. Regadless of the decision here it will be in my competition patch in 2005.

471 Beachy 2004*
F-980 Razo 2003*
M-503 Beachy 2001*

THe 471 Beachy squash was 16% heavy, and the male pollinator was 15% heavy at 595 lbs. The 471 is very unique in that it is one of the very very few squash seeds to have a plant that produced a 1000 pounder in the background. As far as the cross structure of this seed, I compare it to the 723/845 Bobier seeds. Appears to be an F1 type cross on the outside, but looking closer is more F2 type.

I could offer many other seeds. Other seeds that are from bigger pumpkins. Other more well known genetics, but I believe these to be my top crosses of 2004.

Tom Beachy

1/28/2005 1:11:30 AM

Central Mi

I can offer my 744 Swarts 04* (895 Hester x self)

Todd Swarts

1/28/2005 4:01:40 AM

Alex, IN

I can offer my seeds they are big but I think the crosses are nice.

1. 163 Hodge '04 811 Kuhn X 1367.5 Rose
2. 142 Hodge '03 685 Girgus X 735 Pukos
The 142 grew a 195 est. before a mouse chewed thru it.The 685 Girgus is 974 Eaton X 723 Bobier.
3. 84 Hodge '04 1301.5 Eaton X 1367.5 Rose
4. 80 Hodge '04 1367.5 Rose X 1301.5 Eaton
5. 44.5 Hodge '04 1024 Mombert X 753 Pappas

Thats all I have to offer.

Mikkal

1/28/2005 9:12:27 AM

ipswich, ma usa

Brent

I'm cool with another fishing trip if youd like.

John (5150)

1/28/2005 9:29:50 AM

Southeast

I think the 1058 Papez is a great looking seed.

1/29/2005 10:20:22 AM

Utah

ok Brent-
sorry Russ... more power to you... the 873.5 is a great cross I hope it does well for everyone who plants it.

1/31/2005 10:16:36 AM