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pumpkinpal2

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My profound belief is that any discoloration/dying away/etc. of the leaves is cause by the rest of the plant using up the nutrients in that leaf/ves to facilitate further gorwth otherwise, ever since Little Ketchup announced that possibility, for credit's sake. I did not realize, ever, and never wondered why leaves on trees do the same thing every Fall. How to 'correct' or mitigate, I do not have any clue, but nothing to worry about (yet) concerning the whitening of the stalks, although maybe a deeper concern is indicated. DWAI = Don't Worry About it. Imagine anyone saying that to you at a roadblock, lol. Sorry about your rotated photos. If it helps, you can do a Site Search for
photo orientation
and see some comments about it.
Keep dreaming the dream! eric g

6/7/2026 2:31:06 AM

Little Ketchup

Grittyville, WA

I dont know for sure, but I think your soil test and the visual cues may indicate a struggle with phosphorus and manganese.

6/7/2026 3:47:29 AM

Little Ketchup

Grittyville, WA

These probably aren't the exact reason for the white stalk, but it's a starting point. Adequate manganese is associated with green leaf veins. Did you add manganese since the soil test? In what form?

6/7/2026 3:56:06 AM

Christopher24

aurora, IL

I had added manganese sulfate in a granular form. Dissolved it into water before sprinkling it over the plot. Currently I have been feeding my pumpkins with Plant Marvel 12-31-14 twice a week in a watering can and Wow 5-2 humic/fulvic + seaweed extract once a week also in a watering can or foliar spray.

Also, here is what I did add after I got my soil test results that Ron Wallace recommended and stuff that I was already going to add: 3lbs of Osmocote 14-14-14 slow release, 12lbs of kelp meal, 2 lbs of humic/fulvic acid, 3lbs of mono ammonium phosphate 11-52-0, 6lbs of potassium sulfate 0-0-50, copper sulfate 26grams, solubor 6grams, and manganese sulfate 204grams. Last three were dissolved in one gallon of water to sprinkle over the plot easier than deep tilled it all in.

6/7/2026 12:46:00 PM

Christopher24

aurora, IL

They were dissolved in one gallon of water each.

6/7/2026 12:54:07 PM

Little Ketchup

Grittyville, WA

Excellent. Although there could still be some nutrient tie ups. I do think the manganese might not be deep enough or available to the plant yet. If this is the case, then it is a matter of patience, (it might take a month to reach the roots, or for the soil biology catch up). Or if impatient (hitting it with a foliar spray of chelated manganese). I'm only going to give you 20% odds that I'm correct maybe someone else will chime in with a higher level of confidence. I think these nutrient challenges are fun even though it gets dangerous to be more than 80% sure about anything.

[Last edit: 06/07/26 3:39:27 PM]

6/7/2026 3:38:20 PM

Little Ketchup

Grittyville, WA

John Kempf (agronomy guru) did a whole spiel about how manganese sulfate will not enter the plant. Not in a timely manner anyhow. So there can be a disconnect between what we add and what the plants will actually uptake. I'm guilty all the time of adding things to the soil surface and calling it done. Later I realize the plant still isnt getting or benefitting from what I added. Sports metaphor... If I want to get on base then it's not enough to just swing the bat, I also have to hit the ball. It can be a frustrating game.

[Last edit: 06/07/26 5:51:16 PM]

6/7/2026 3:48:22 PM

Christopher24

aurora, IL

I did till it in to a depth of about 6.5 to 7” deep, but we haven’t received an adequate amount of rain. I did add 2.5 lbs of mycorrhizal. I feed it with Root once every two weeks and Terra Trove Sp-1 once every week.

6/7/2026 6:00:37 PM

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