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Monday, January 20, 2025 Little Ketchup Grittyville, WA

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One of these ramblings that no one needs to read its garbage but I'll post it anyways. You can always find something useful at the dump, or at least I can. Some of my tomato GOTY stuff was yes actually salvaged from the dump, at least my repurposed "plastic fence" shade netting was lol. Anyhow, my diary is becoming a landfill. Here's a fresh pile of verbal waste! Pick out something useful at the "verbal dump" then let the rest of it produce methane for the next 150 years :(

Fully tripping here, but the shape of a tree is determined almost purely by the math of its phloem. And the location of the largest possible fruit for a pumpkin plant should be, too. There's a few other factors (chemical signaling aka plant hormones and vine size and having no chemical or physical disruptions to the flow of phloem, aka no lack of nutrients and perfect delivery efficiency aka perfect weather and root health).

Well this is a bunch of drivel at this point but I think that its like that "Rain Man" or "Goodwill Hunting" or "A Beatiful Mind" thing where there's math all around us if we could just see it.

There's a formula that makes it makes it all make sense. I'm not terribly far from it.

The "Vine layout calculator." It could be an app, it could do a design assessment just like any other engineering software, and AI could calculate the absolute best layout. But the truth is its too simple to even need AI. Just look at the nearest well fertilized tree. Copy nature. Natural intelligence, no need for AI.

The problem with fruit trees as a model is they are designed to put most of their resources down through their trunk into their roots. The fruit on a tree is almost inconsequential, it uses the resources from only the nearest few leaf nodes of the branch that its on, it doesnt garner resources from the entire tree. But the roots mostly do garner the trees entire resources. Hence, every vine emanating from the pumpkin should look like a natural tree. If it doesn't, its probably inefficient. I've modeled natural stuff mathematically before (I came up with a mathematical model for the ratio of male to female flowers... it was a bit complex but it was beautiful and it worked.)

Anyhow, I always thought that the pattern of a tree was just structural but it cant be... plants dont understand engineering... they do understand phloem though. The phloem plus some innate growth patterns (the exact expression of which is caused by chemisty of the genetics plus the environment) is what causes the structure. Vines dont have to have to make a strength investment or perennial investment into the roots. A pumpkin plant can truly maximize a fruit. Its ingenious. But how can we help it maximize itself even more.
 



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