This one was a beast. Grown from a 825 shymanski and crossed with the 705 stelts. Don't ask why that dip in the middle of the tops ribs did not split and why it did not go light. This 825 shymanski had other ideas, stayed in one piece and went close to 60 lbs heavy. what a surprise from a seed known for splitting and weighing light. says alot about the grower...Dave Creuziger has had the best success of any grower out there with the 825 shymanski seed...he knows how to grow it.