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Utah, brysterz11@hotmail.com

does anybody have a 1236 Eaton seed they are willing to give up.i can send a s.a.s.b.p
I am new to growing AG's so i dont have many seeds to trade

thanks
Bryson Ensign

12/30/2005 8:12:42 PM

canal winchester ohio

Bryon even if your able to get one I would hold it for a year. If this is your first season save your better seeds until you learn the basics of growing AG's. There are plenty of great seeds to use while learning.
............Paul

12/30/2005 8:22:48 PM

Kevinstinindians@yahoo.com

I agree with Paul. The 1236 is one of the top 20 seeds of all time now, not easy to find even with a good trade, but you may get lucky and get one. There are a ton of good seeds to cut your teeth on, the 1023 Vader, I assume you have, would be a fine seed, its 1000lb proven.

12/30/2005 8:40:41 PM

Eugene,OR

Ahh, if you can get one grow it. Next year there will be even better seeds.

12/30/2005 11:21:58 PM

Syracuse, NY

i find it bothersome that some of us try to deter
anyone on this site from attempting to grow a "top"
seed because of their possible lack of experience, lack of seed-spending money, or what-everrrr reason...
sure, if someone is gonna blow all their life's savings on
booze, women and drugs, stop them in their tracks; but when it comes to pumpkin seeds, well, there will be others, better, faster, stronger...i forget what the 1236 has grown,
1300, 1400, 1500....i dunno, but i do not recall it having done so just yet. so, i agree, there are a lot of seeds out there that can top the 1236, thus far, but if you get a seed you want to grow,...what was that guy's name, first year grower, California? oh, yeah, Chris Andersen=977!
i have said elsewhere, there is no greater motivation than
KNOWING that the seed you planted has the capability of producing your new state record...or world record. so do it!

12/31/2005 2:09:43 AM

Syracuse, NY

sorry to have laid it on so thick, just then...Happy N.Y.!

12/31/2005 2:11:37 AM

Romney West By God Virginia

I agree with Pumpkinpal2. 2006 will be my first year growing. I will plant the best seeds I can obtain. I had the "I better wait a year so I have a clue" mentality until a heavy hitter told me "don't cheat yourself out of a chance to go big!" If you fail you fail. If you do well people will offer you great seeds because you did well.

Get the best seeds you can obtain, study up on growing, plant them, make controlled crosses, and even if you don't do well you will have good seeds of your own to grow or trade. Most folks here are more than willing to help. :o)

12/31/2005 9:05:00 AM

Norton, MA

Rob Stidwell grew a 1240 EST DMG his first year in NH because he grew a 582 that he had, and didn't save it. Bryson, I know we've already traded (and my 720.6 could be very good itself), but if you don't find a proven seed to grow and you want to grow one, e-mail me. Sorry, no 1236. AleX Noel.

12/31/2005 9:06:40 AM

Picton,ON (j.vincent@xplornet.ca)

Growing top seed is the great equalizer. I consider myself an exceptional gardener and agriculturalist. I grew "top seeds" this year, including 1068 Wallace, 1097 Beachy, 1016 Daletas and several others that are proven to grow over 1000. My top weight this year was 705.5. Is it the seeds fault? I don't think so. If you grow the best seeds you can find, it really helps to measure your growing abaility. This was a very humbling year for me!
My advise to new growers is to grow "proven seed". That is seed proven to grow 1000+. There are many proven seeds available just for the asking. The 1236 has grown 7 over 1000 lbs and is an excellent choice for a first year grower.
Sorry jonny, I don't have one either. Good luck!

12/31/2005 9:41:20 AM

Pumpkintown, SC

The last time I weighed in on this, I somehow and most inadvertently, ruffled another grower's feathers. I'll just say I agree with Paul! Keeping in mind, there are always going to be exceptions to the rules, 1240 Stidwell, Andersen 977, etc. I wonder what they think they could pop after a season or two under their belt with that same seed? BF

12/31/2005 11:14:30 AM

Pembroke, New Hampshire

My 1240Stidwill grown in 2004, wasn't truley done without any experience. I'd been growing for 5 years prior to that, but never completely seriously until 2004. The year prior, I had joined the NHGPGA, saw Bruce Whittier's monster and decided I had to try being dedicated to it. I would recommend that a first or second year grower hold onto a top seed and get some experience with growing techniques before planting it. You never know if you'll get a premium seed to try again. Having said all that, I'll be planting the Hester 582 for my third year running. Happy New Year to all.

12/31/2005 12:12:44 PM

Norton, MA

Sorry I spoke for you without knowing everything. AleX Noel.

12/31/2005 2:13:13 PM

Eugene,OR

If you want to break 1200 pounds all you have to do is move th New Hampshire and plant a 582 Hester!

12/31/2005 2:19:28 PM

Jaffrey NH

That is if you want a 1200 pound splitter. :) They may grow big but they cant be held together! But hey, I wont refuse any 582s if anyone would like to send some my way. :) I hope everyone has a good new years!
Dk

12/31/2005 6:14:51 PM

Pocatello (cliffwarren@yahoo.com)

This is the first time I've seen this topic go more toward
"go for it, plant what you want"... I can't say that I disagree....

but, and I realize that money hasn't entered the conversation,
but if I had $300 to spend, I'd spend $295 on the soil and
$5 on the seed. On the other hand, if you have $1000 to spend...

12/31/2005 6:28:09 PM

Ohio

Monty Wallace, first time ever growing a Atlantic Giant,but long time gardner, 1095lbs.

1/2/2006 4:41:55 AM

Romney West By God Virginia

Tom Lishness of Maine grew 2 over 1,000 lbs his first year growing also.

1/2/2006 9:46:45 AM

Maine

Doug is right Tom Lishness grew a 1114 and a 1000.4 his first year. I say if you have done the patch prep and read the books, and talk with fellow growers you should plant any seed you want or can get. Good luck to all in '06 grow them big!!

1/2/2006 10:06:30 AM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

OK not to be the pessimist of the bunch..there are two sides of growing...Lets list the number of growers that have screwed up germinating, put the plant out to early, baked the poor plant in a hoophouse on a day that started out as rain and turned to sun, sprayed what they thought was fungicide(round-up), and the list goes on. If you want to use a expensive seed your 1st year that is a choice you have to make. Just remember the risks...

1/2/2006 1:22:54 PM

Norton, MA

I admit it, I steamed a 783, 1016, 1097.5, 953, 1023, 1458, 899.5*, and 675 * in 2004 at 220*F. That does not change my advice, my heat mat shorted, not the new grower aspect. AleX Noel.

1/2/2006 7:36:10 PM

Kevinstinindians@yahoo.com

I think it should pointed out that Tom Lishness's pumpkins were grown on unproven seeds that cost 2 dollars each.

1/2/2006 9:45:17 PM

Lexington, KY

what is the point of putting bad genetics in your program. You would never tell a beef rancher to buy a cheap bull his first year until he got the hang of it. I am growing big my first year and getting the best genetics I can find. And I am producing my own pollen and seed crosses to propel my future years

1/14/2006 3:29:07 PM