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No Place Special

The 455 Andrews was planted by many growers in 2002 as a friendly competition among growers. All season I was wishing I would have gotten in on it. Anyhow, I was wondering if everyone is looking at a 2003 competition seed? By the way who won 2002?

12/7/2002 3:44:52 PM

colorado

Well first, what seed do we all have????

12/7/2002 4:08:03 PM

No Place Special

I would think that if we took a vote on it, then let the grower know of our plans that he would love to have his seed widely planteed. As long as its not an 846, 845 or another VERY hot seed there should be plenty of supply to meet our demand.

12/7/2002 4:18:54 PM

colorado

Maybe the 310 eisenhaur, I think some people have that one? It also has good genetics...

12/7/2002 4:22:50 PM

Mastic Beach, New York

hey guys how about ken's 840?


billy

12/7/2002 6:40:13 PM

Garden State Pumpkins

Or Lobsta's uow 870 Powers 2002...is a 1048 Cox Selfed...I'm sure He'd be glad to share them!!! Sorry to put you on the spot John!!! LOL Chuck just need someone with plenty of seed left of one pumpkin I guess? be fun though wish I got in on the last one!

12/7/2002 6:56:20 PM

Hey : Guy's, if your serious and want to try it, I'll supply
770 Van 02 for the contest. Let me know. Poppy

12/7/2002 8:52:23 PM

Quebec,Canada

I really think it would be great Pumpkin Bill. I am up for the 840 from Ken.

12/7/2002 9:23:47 PM

Garden State Pumpkins

Hey Poppy, great genetics and a very generous offer..Mike whats the rules....have to have something about accurate posts and pictures once a month or so....biggest grown, closest to state record...that sort of stuff...chuck

12/7/2002 10:45:04 PM

colorado

I can come up with that if you want.. Mike, you and I could work together on this???

12/7/2002 10:59:48 PM

berkshire M.A.

How about my 705.6 lb pumpkin .Allot of the seeds were sent out and 30 sets of them will be on this sites seed page soon . I still have more left over as well .The cross was 707 Toftness (846 Calais x 723 Bobier ) X self. Nice orange pumpkin and it was a little over on the chart.
BILL

12/7/2002 11:51:50 PM

No Place Special

Sounds like there is some interest out there!!!! GREAT... would be a blast. And I see we already have some seed offers. What was Kens 840 cross? And Bill V. what was yours Someone mentioned the 310.....846 x self right? So far id have to say I like Hoppy's 705.6. I would need to run it past him, and maybe I should have before I mentioned it, but what about the 804 Carlson. It is 846 x self and there was two on the plant....went pretty heavy also...! Nice fruit, I seen it in person! Anyhow, anyone interested please give some feedback. As far as rules...we can vote on those also. Maybe a prize..... Maybe someone would be willing to put up a nice seed??? Just an Idea. Anyhow, I would be happy to try to organize this if that is what we want.... And if so, SURE Steve i'll take some help! I just thought it was a really neet thing some of you did last year and I think it could be a great BP.com tradition!! I'll check back here on Sunday, Mike

12/8/2002 12:33:03 AM

Indiana

I will supply one of my 801.5 x 974 Mettler crosses if you want.

Dependin on the number of poeple, I will supply one of my 801.5 x 876.5 Crosses....if there are less than 50. I have quite a bit fewer of that cross is why I would have to put a limit on it.

Tom Beachy

12/8/2002 12:34:40 AM

No Place Special

Also I will offer my 392.5. 845 Nesbitt X 922.5 Emmons

12/8/2002 12:35:50 AM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

I'm in you guys pick the seed. Shannon

12/8/2002 12:38:21 AM

porterville,california usa

Walcott Pumpkin, sign me up! i think you`d be perfect for contest "director".toss me a seed and i`ll show ya what a california boy can do!LOL. i already have ground set for 9 plants next year . preparing ground for one more will give me something to do until january 15 planting time!! count me in if ya want a little western competition. hee hawww.Booth.

12/8/2002 1:18:48 AM

Garden State Pumpkins

Gotta get Mark P and G involed since I think they unoffically officially started last years little competition. Wow Hard to believe how generous these guys are offering such great seed. Chuck

12/8/2002 1:23:23 AM

Cornwall UK.(50N 5W)300ft.

I got Ken's 840 that would be a good one or maybe go wider and say any 846 x self cross there's lots of them.

12/8/2002 4:55:42 AM

Massachusetts

I'd offer some of my 803.4's (845 Bobier 00 X 922.5 Emmons) and for the person that grew the biggest pumpkin from it a 845 Bobier 00 seed.

12/8/2002 7:26:16 AM

Roanoke Il

Mike I would say Pappy won the 455.4 andrews 2002 weigh off. Reasons being he was the grower that folloewed the rules by posting the results every week in how his 455.4 was doing. I even didn't follow the rules of the contest and I was the guy who thought it up.
The reasons I wanted the weigh off wasn't for who grew the biggest fruit but to see if climate, expereince, soil, ect made a difference in how the seed would preform and from thant maybe get some ideas to help better ourselves in up coming years.
Its up to you Mike its your baby this year in how the weigh off is run but remember in the middle of the summer its hard to make posts every week, secound do we all want to grow a seed that might turn out to be a dog even if it looks good on paper it might not grow a nice pumpkin. Idea maybe look back 2001 seeds 310 707 960 1062 just some ideas they have all grown some pumpkins in the 900 lb range.
Best of luck mark

12/8/2002 8:05:01 AM

Appalachian Mtns.

Winner?.....Pistono 816(455.4 x self).

12/8/2002 8:06:14 AM

Roanoke Il

kyle my fruit wasn't a offical fruit even thow I did have a 579,5 which was an offical fuit off the 455.4 Brian posted every week so he should be the winner. mark

12/8/2002 8:25:01 AM

Ankeny, Iowa

I think we should all vote on what seed to use for the competition. I vote for the Ken's 840.

12/8/2002 9:44:13 AM

Farmington, Utah

I think Bill's Pumpkin the 770 seeds would be great. I think it is 845Bobier X 945 Van. The 945 Van is an aggressive plant and I know Bills offspring from the 945 went about 8-9% over the charts.

12/8/2002 10:07:04 AM

Garden State Pumpkins

Kenny, Just going through the genetic line of that seed is unbelievable...lloyd,mettler,ciliberto,dill, Bobier, wentzel, mombert etc...all with the right numbers ....I'm with ya on that pick...chuck

12/8/2002 10:48:49 AM

Quebec,Canada

Ken's 840

12/8/2002 11:34:35 AM

Commack, NY

not that i can actually participate in this......BUT i'll put in my opinion anyway.......i think a competition with kens 840 is a great idea, or John's 695. i think it would be real great way to give something back to bigpumpkins.com

Scott

12/8/2002 12:10:49 PM

colorado

How about g's 455 again?????? or the 310, it produced some big ones, might wanna try it and prove seeds from small pumpkins can go BIG!!!!!!!!!

12/8/2002 12:27:52 PM

No Place Special

Wow, im glad to see that the interest is growing here!!! I like many of the ideas sugested and I really like what Farmer Scott said about Ken's 840. I know Ken and his BP.com have changed my life bigtime. I think that in a couple of days, after everyone has had a chance to offer seeds, opinions and what not we should have a vote. Also I see Marks opinion on growing a more proven seed. Maybe everyone would like to go into this with a little better odds???? Good idea Mark! I for one like to play on the riskey side of things. I like to "prove" a seed, LOL. Anyhow, I think we should sit on this and collect some ideas for a couple of days, then we should have a vote. Anyone.......??????

12/8/2002 12:28:50 PM

colorado

I agree Mike, but I think the 455 would be a good idea again for it is proven and I think most of us have it... The 310 eisenhaur is the 846 x self, good genetics and I think we tried to get that seed.. but when you combine the 455 with the 846 we would sort of be combining the 455 and 310, so why not the 617 andrews if g can part with some for us?????? If not I would like it if we tried Tom Beachy's cross......Any thoughts Mike?????????????

12/8/2002 12:57:26 PM

Appalachian Mtns.

I'm up for the game with Ken's 840 but I only got one problem.....I need some of the seed.

12/8/2002 1:14:27 PM

Caceres, Spain

803.4 Davies

12/8/2002 1:31:10 PM

Knopp, Germany

Like MarkP.said the 537 hildebrandt won last year...why don't we let pappy decide which seed this year, i am for the 537 hildebrandt..

12/8/2002 1:37:42 PM

Down Stream

How would the 455 do if it was grown against its self the 455 x 455 in the same patch? By the same grower. Which would produce the biggest pumpkin.
Just an interesting thought.

12/8/2002 3:59:40 PM

North Ga

I have plenty of 537 Hildebrands if need be. I would love to be in another contest in '03. It was a heck of a lot of fun this year.

12/8/2002 4:09:12 PM

Ga.

Love the 537!! Saw it in person,,WOW,,it was a Beautiful sight,,when I pulled into the yard,,it was glowing in the total darkness....537,537,537,537,537,537,537,537.........

12/8/2002 5:16:18 PM

Paradise Mountain, New York

whats the winner get? Also, it would be pretty hard for everyone to grow the same pumpkin unless someone had enough of the same seed to give to everyone

12/8/2002 5:41:23 PM

North Ga

I just sent 100 packets to the site but still have a couple hundred left.

12/8/2002 5:55:37 PM

Hey : Guy's ; all things aside ; all the particments in contest must be happy with what they are growing or they will not give it there best shot. So I suggest, find the seed that will produce the most amount of growers & go with that one. It will give the most fun to the majority & that is the name of the game. My offer will remain open but remember, the more growers the more fun. Mike; I'm only trying to be helpful. Poppy

12/8/2002 6:45:34 PM

huntsburg,ohio

i might even jump in.jerry

12/8/2002 7:13:51 PM

Liverpool , England

Yeah.....me too

Alun

12/8/2002 7:39:08 PM

Tipp City, Ohio

I'm in. I can't do any worse than last year!....Tom

12/8/2002 8:32:11 PM

Connecticut, USA

I have more 840's if you want to try that one. It is an 805 Pukos selfed. See the pics in my diary. The stem end was 14 inches thick!

The worst part is that I won't be in it! I am sitting out next season. My wife is due with our second son in April.

12/8/2002 8:37:59 PM

Jackson Twp, Ohio

Congrats Ken I think the 840 or the 537 would be a good choice since it seems like most everyone including myself should be able to get those. Nick Hamilton

12/8/2002 8:48:30 PM

Deer Park WA

Hi Ken D. I would save a prime slot in my gardens to grow out one of your 840's, I would love to get a "Family Rivalry" going. Throw one in with my seed order I just submitted. Or email me and I will send you a SASBP with a few of my own humble seeds...

Gerry Gadberry

12/8/2002 9:19:02 PM

colorado

Sad to hear your sitting out next season ken, I would have guessed 1000lbs!!! But if you are gonna sit out, having a cild is the best reason, congrats ken!!!!!!!!!!!

12/8/2002 9:19:37 PM

Choctaw, OK

i would be happy to supply my 130's '01 (762 Neuville 00 x 876.5 Lloyd 96)...lol...it was worth a shot.

good luck on what you guys decide.....if had more room, i would join in.

case

12/8/2002 11:42:33 PM

Indiana

Maybe your wife will let you grow just 1 plant Ken...worth a try :-(

Tom Beachy

12/8/2002 11:53:26 PM

No Place Special

Well I talked to Dan Carlson and he said he would provide us seeds from his 804 if we want them. It is an 846 X self seed. It was on the heavy side. Just an idea.

12/8/2002 11:53:48 PM

South Hill, Virginia

No one has commented on it and maybe I'm reading it wrong but it looks like steve(3) is offering a 845 to the winner using his 803.4. Can't beat that for a prize. Of course I'm not sure I can fit anything extra in my patch but winning an 845 is intriguing. Of course Ken has some nice seed too...how about the 6?? (805x712)

12/9/2002 12:00:13 AM

Deer Park WA

Sorry Kenny D., I get caught up in pumpkins and sometimes forget my manners.... Congradulations on the addition to your lives, we hope your new child is blessed with good health and a long life.

The Gadberry's

12/9/2002 1:03:52 AM

porterville,california usa

Sign me up for the contest.I`ll go with the majority on which seed to grow. It doesn`t matter to me as long as everyone uses the same.Someone please e-mail me when you decide, what, when, how,etc., cause i`ll probably not be able to be reading this for a while. Thanks . booth

12/9/2002 2:41:02 AM

berkshire M.A.

I'm with Mark , Pappy Won it last season . i did not have time to post every week , We had the same cross and just a few pound different . I do have a fair amount of seeds left from my 541.5 Hopkins 2002 , it's the 805 Pukos x 845 Bobier 00 .It was a light color fruit and it was over 15+% .I'm game for any seeds as long as i can get the seed that is ,The Official 2003 Big Pumpkins.com , Pumpkin run Seed.
Bill

12/9/2002 7:16:21 AM

Garden State Pumpkins

Congrats Ken D...Best of luck in April! remember you don't have to put the little one on grow mats!! Chuck

12/9/2002 9:39:09 AM

Edmonton, Canada

Congrats Ken!!!

I think we should go with the 537 Hildebrant. Pappy has been very generous with the seeds, and it will keep the 455 Andrews contest going in a round about way.

12/9/2002 10:09:01 AM

Paradise Mountain, New York

Hello everyone. If you sign up for the contest, yes i understand you get a seed. O.K. what are the rules and wha does the winner get.

12/9/2002 11:25:46 AM

No Place Special

Okay everyone, it looks like we have a big croud willing to participate in this...WOOO HOOO! This should be fun. Also we have many generous offers for some really GREAT seeds! Thanks a bunch to everyone who offered some up. I really think this would make a great BP.com tradition, so we need to come up with some ideas on rules and what not. Im going to go start a new thread just for ideas. Unless you fell that someone else would be better to organise this, Ill be more than happy to do it. Im going to bring SteveMan along for the ride because ill surely need some help. Lets all try to come up with some ground rules and Ideas (post on new thread) and then after everyone has had Time to pick which seed they like Steve and I will start taking votes. Sound good??? Mike Frantz

12/9/2002 12:11:10 PM

Long Island,New York

I think the best bet would be the 707 Toftness...846Calai x 723Bobier from ' 01. It was on the BP seed page so many have it. Its proven to be worthy as Hoppy got over 700 on it last summer and NY Randy+Deb had 700 plus on thiers...it produces orange fruit of good shape. Its largely ungrown yet its produced well when it was grown. And how could you beat the 846 and 723 as parents?....That would be my choice.......G

12/9/2002 12:15:15 PM

Kentucky - USA

Guys..Why not have a contest for any BP.com member that would throw 10 bucks in a pot and let them grow any seed they choose? I think that would be of a more fair and honest way of working the contest.

just my opinion..

Tim

12/9/2002 1:19:13 PM

Pulaski Tn blkcloud@igiles.net

hEHEHE, IF YOU WANT TO REALLY MAKE IT TOUGH I HAVE ABOUT 200 MOLDY BUT DRIED SEEDS FROM A 150 POUNDER.. I WAS GONNA USE THEM FOR JACK O LATERN'S BUT THERE YOURS IF YOU WANT THEM.. I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO GROW A GOOD SEED FOR ONCE..

12/9/2002 3:00:52 PM

No Place Special

FYI I got an e mail from Clarence Koch who offered his 940 to us!!! Also I got an e-mail from Bart Toftness who confirmed hed supply his 707!!! Can you believe all the awesome choices we have?????! Steve and i will compile a list of current seed choices and put that out soon. Keep the ideas coming........Mike

12/9/2002 11:24:50 PM