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Indiana

After a long internal debate, I have decided to trade off my 1068 Wallace. I decided to do this out of respect to the seed as I do not feel I can give it a fair chance at producing what it is capable of.

I am looking for a trade offer that includes the 1385 Jutras, 1413 Werner(s), 1566 Rodonis, and potentially other seeds.

Some other seeds I am looking for include
1462 Holland, 1500 Revier, 1367 Sherwood, 1350 Starr, 1528 Starr, 1325 Starr, 1264 Werner, 1306 Jutras, 1092 Martin

I will accept offers via email, and will decide sometime within the next week.


Thanks,
Tom Beachy
tebeachy@verizon.net

3/10/2009 12:33:34 PM

Picton,ON (j.vincent@xplornet.ca)

There ya go Brooks!

3/10/2009 1:25:41 PM

Tom, I have a 1500,1350,1528,1264 and 1306.

Martin

giantpumpkinpatch@gmail.com

3/10/2009 2:40:24 PM

Cornelius, Oregon

Let me find my vault key.....

3/10/2009 5:25:18 PM

Cornelius, Oregon

Ah, there it is...

3/10/2009 5:26:05 PM

(rocky) Bonney Lake Wa.

e mail sent I have most all of them

3/10/2009 6:03:59 PM

South Bloomfield, Ohio

Beachy, you're gonna be the richest man in all of seeddom.

3/10/2009 8:25:33 PM

Southeast

Eamil me Tom

3/11/2009 9:25:51 AM

Indiana

Oh wow guys...this is going to take me a few days to sort out..LOL More emails than I expected Be patient with me on a response

3/11/2009 10:35:35 AM

Southeast

Thanks Tom. Im gonna give it to Brooks. Dave

3/11/2009 4:42:18 PM

Rhode Island

tom
i remember giving you a 1068 as a special gift several years ago at niagara.
i remember at the time my feelings were that you wanted to plant it not trade it.
id like the seed back if your not going to plant it as was the original intent.
unfortunately this is a perfect example why most oweners of the highly desired seeds are getting offended with some of these so called seed trades.
im not offended. just feel trading a seed as special as the 1068 without first offering it back to the guy who gave it to you is disrespectfull.
friends do not do that to one another.
thanks
pap

3/12/2009 8:01:22 AM

Eddyz@efirehose.net

PAP
The 1068 seed that Tom is trading came from me, It was purchased by me at an auction, Tom did email me prior to this and asked if he could have my blessings, which I did give him. I do belive Tom did grow the 1068 you gave him.
Eddy

3/12/2009 9:50:31 AM

Rhode Island

then i consider the case closed. thanks eddy.
sorry tom,
my feeling about trading seeds aquired from the original grower remains the same.i do however realize that due to eddies post this was not the case.
to much trading of seeds aquired from growers who expected when they were sent that they were intended to be planted. not banked for future tradeoffs.
unfortunately i have heard many top growers are backing off on sending future seed bubbles because of this.
pap

3/12/2009 12:41:25 PM

Indiana

Well, I didn't expect to see this today LOL

First of all thank you Eddy for posting.

Secondly, Dick. You have known me for a long time. I am surprised you didn't contact me in private via email. A public forum was not the place to air your complaint.

Finally, the person I did trade it to is doing something so selfless with the seed, I don't even know what to say. I will not disclose who it is but I hope they post what they are doing with the seed.

Next time you have a problem with something I do, come to me first instead of almost making me look like a real jerk with no facts to back it up. I thought you knew me better than that.

3/12/2009 2:36:01 PM

Mill Bay, British Columbia

Great offer David G.

Tom, if this is the selfless deed you are speaking of....then good for you David...Brooks would love to grow the 1068 again.

3/12/2009 4:56:03 PM

Indiana

no, its not Dave..LOL

3/12/2009 5:09:16 PM

Paradise Mountain, New York

I would have to agree 100 percent with Pap on trading seeds. So many now are great proven seeds. When I first started growing in 2002, I traded to get started. But in the last six years I haven't traded. I learned the hard way. Some growers you trade with, open the little yellow envelope and staple it or tape it close. Who has any idea they didn't switch seeds with the real one. If I want a certain seed now, I write and ask the grower and tell them why i want there certain seed. Works for me.

3/12/2009 6:27:37 PM

Rhode Island

tom sometimes i post to bring out a point. not just to call someone out. your post was an excelent time to make a statement regarding seed trades.

to many seed trades that resulted because growers were told one thing only to find they went to someones seed bank to be traded like a barging chip.

thats the reason for my reaction.

3/12/2009 9:01:13 PM

Preston CT

I think Don Young should get it! He grew the biggest one so far!

3/13/2009 1:11:26 PM

Austria/

I understand,that a top grower is not enjoied,when somebody a recieved seed trades or sells.But what is,when somebody for example gifts a 1068 to a friend(i know it must be a very very good friend...)for birthday or christmas?
I'm not in this embarrassment,it´s only a question.
Josef,Vienna Austria

3/14/2009 12:00:26 AM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

Correct me if I am wrong and I am sure you will..but the second that seed arrives in my mailbox and I open the bubble pack I am in posession of it. If I made someone an agreement that I would plant it..that is a different story. But if it was a seed exchange your seed had just as much chance as my seed becoming a proven seed. I have no rights to that seed once it is gone. It was given as a gift.
Gift: something voluntarily transferred by one person to another without compensation

3/14/2009 12:40:46 AM

Minnesota

Lets have a drawing for 1068 Wallace...Everyone puts in 10-15 bucks, winner gets the 1068...Money goes to the OAF...now all we need is a 1068

3/14/2009 12:58:33 AM

Dillsburg, PA

Its not like he put it up for sell on BeachySeeds. I do understand the frustration though.

3/14/2009 8:00:25 AM

Back Yard

I agree with you Tom, that "bring out a point" should have started out with the same form of respect you gave to Eddy, a private e-mail to clarify the situation first. I feel that would have been the best way to handle it so there would not be any misconceptions. People often act and react with incomplete facts or none at all. Way too much of that going on.

3/14/2009 11:37:35 AM

Cornelius, Oregon

Lets look at this from the other point of view. I give and trade seeds all over the world (except Antarctica)Once they are given out, thats it, they are gone. The exeption being if there is a promise to grow the seed. To me, if a grower is not going to grow it and someone else wants it, you bet I would like to see it in the hands of the person who wants it. It will hit soil then, instead of sitting in the seed container(s) we all have. If one of my seeds sells at an auction for 500 bucks or trades for a 1000 dollars in street value of seeds, that only increases my seeds popularity and value, and further, increases the chance that people will grow it.
If someone sells one of my seeds I recently gave them, chances are they are going to get mud slung in their face anyway, the bigpumpkins.com police take care of that. So, as a result, I don't worry about someone begging for an 1104 on Monday and turning right around on Tuesday and posting they have an 1104 to trade.
I have a great time trading seeds, they are my trading cards. I love the Crazy Seed Trade, how else could I have come into possession of a squirrel pelt and some genuinely ugly ass used ties.
Lets keep this fun, and remember we all are members of a unique community where in the end, it is not about the all mighty dollar, but about the biggest damn pumpkin in the world.

3/14/2009 12:47:54 PM

Pemberton, BC

Well said Brett. I would hate to see the trading aspect of pumpkin growing go the way of the Dodo. For example your crazy seed trade and the non-niagra swap tonight are 2 of the most unique things in this hobby. Growers should know who screwed them over after a seed request, and I would assume that next time the request won't be filled. I would hope those individuals who do that though are few and far between.

3/14/2009 2:18:38 PM

Newmarket, NH USA

I ask for seeds and most growers I have traded with for the last 10 years now say no more seed exchanges and if you promise to grow it you can have one. I respect that because the seeds are there seeds to do with them as they please. My fear is that the seed I wanted to obtain becomes a real super seed and now when I ask for it the following year I am afraid it is going to be sorry I have thousands of requests and cant help you now. I mean I am ok with that as well because there are so many super seeds out there and lots of growers that still dont mind sending you there unproven seeds. I also agree with Brett 100 percent about this money thing. When I see unproven seed packs being sold for hundreds of dollars by clubs now each year it tells me it is mostly about the dollar. I know this is how it is going to be from here on out so I am not going to bitch about it I will just plant what I can get my hands on because I really think the soil and the grower are far more important than the seed. I bet if you took the top 10 growers in the world and let them put in seeds pulled out of a hat at random you would see some great results on seeds nobody even heard off.

3/14/2009 4:16:25 PM

Deer Park WA

This has been a debate for years and as I stated in 2004 If you ask me for a seed it is implied you will grow it, if you want to trade it you should at least have the courtesy to say so up front, or ask the grower if he/she wants it back first.

Any hot seed could be sold on auction to benifit charity or the growers club. (especially a 1068!).

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/MsgBoard/ViewThread.asp?b=3&p=55552

Gerry

3/16/2009 11:43:08 AM

Indiana

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/MsgBoard/ViewThread.asp?b=3&p=55552

3/16/2009 4:32:40 PM

Indiana

crap, I was trying to reference, and I must have posted it...LMAO

3/16/2009 4:33:07 PM