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Claysburg , PA

Making wish list for this fall . Need to know top 5 pumpkin seeds and top 5 squash.

8/25/2004 8:59:46 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

I know almost nothing about Squash. So here's my Pumpkin list.

The top 5 producers are like asking for free gold. It just doesn't happen. This isn't my AGGC computer. But I'd guess the real top 5 would look like this:

723 Bobier
854 Bobier
846 Calai
705 Stelts
805 Pukos
801 Stelts

OK. Sue me. I thought of 6. But these will take some serious negotiating to obtain.

It would be more realistic to consider top performing seeds from after 2001 since the top performers from 2000 & earlier are the most difficult to obtain & trade at auction for as much as $300-$500 each.

Since this years weight totals aren't in yet, I'll just wager a guess at a few future hotties that will be getting harder to find:

996 Bobier
1097 Beachy
842 Eaton
1370 Rose
950.4 Boynton
898 Knauss

Others with potential that probably didn't get enough dirt thrown at them yet. I'd like to see these seeds first generation progeny if they'd just get planted by veteran growers. Most of these shouldn't be too hard to get. Some are just copies of existing proven crosses. Others are unique for their time & haven't been grown.

538 & 543 Wells
1074 Calai
237 & 807 Beachy
736 Garrell
1367.5 Rose
707 Toftness
1027 Hopkins
307 Little
566 Reynolds
1037.5 Bobier
1029 Nesbitt

8/25/2004 11:20:30 PM

Ontario, Canada.

Add another couple to the list.
1301 Eaton
771 Stellplhug*

8/25/2004 11:53:00 PM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

what no 1260 Weir :0)

8/26/2004 12:15:06 AM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Top 5

8/26/2004 12:45:24 AM

In the shade - PDX, OR

Yeah that 1260 Weir can be added to Steve's "nearly impossible to obtain" list.

8/26/2004 12:58:51 AM

Syracuse, NY

what's the 854 Bobier?
i think i may have one of those.
nope, it was the 854C Holland.
or, would that be 854B?

i'm just bein' bad!
and, what, no GERRY SEEDS on the list???
lol---------------eric

8/26/2004 7:32:53 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Typo Eric, It was getting late. 845B

8/26/2004 8:19:44 PM

Ohio

You cant forget the Wentzell seeds that Lisa and Roger produce each year ether, they have grown many over the 1000lbs range and to many to count around the 700 to 900 mark.
Brooks

8/29/2004 12:59:08 PM

Hilpoltstein, Bavaria, Germany

Which Wentzell seed(s) do you consider top seeds? I can't imagine any... maybe the 914 but I wouldn't consider it as a top seed.
Martin

8/29/2004 3:49:20 PM

derry n.h u.s.a.

I think quite a few of steve Daletas's pumpkin seeds are very promising 1016,961,783,etc after this year they will be highly sought after.Dont know about the top squash seeds.John

8/29/2004 3:53:15 PM

Ohio

Martin, wasnt the 914 considered the 10 ten seed in the world last year?
Brooks

8/29/2004 6:51:12 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

I just checked AGGC. The 914 has a definite place in history as it has contributed to some other important genetics. Here the progeny list:

2....1000+
1.....900+
4.....800+
9.....700+
9.....600+
6.....500+

By aqverage weight of progeny in descending order of rank the top 10 list stands correct:

723 Bobier.......20 1000+
845 Bobier..........error
846 Calai........14 1000+
805 Pukos.........5 1000+
705 Stelts........5 1000+
898 Knauss........4 1000+
801 Stelts........4 1000+
1230 Deletas......3 1000+
790 Deletas.......2 1000+
875 Dill..........2 1000+ (Mom was 914 Wentzell)

The top 10 list is not ranked by the number of high weights, but rather the average weight. Thus the tie for 1000+ progeny.

8/30/2004 5:44:01 AM

Ohio

Great info Tremor!, Tremor where would i find information like that on certain seeds, thats fantastic information.
Brooks

8/30/2004 4:28:26 PM

Ohio

oh never mind,lol duh,, AGGC

8/30/2004 4:29:04 PM