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Central Illinois

Tomorrow I am able to get a trailer of horse manure, I have a new area tilled up that is 25x25. Half of this area will be shaded during the last half of the growing season, what side would you start your seed,the full sun ,or the shaded side.

I was wondering what end to dump the manure, or just spread it all evenly

11/29/2012 3:29:28 PM

canal winchester ohio

I've grown in those conditions before and I always grew from sun to shade. You always end up shading the pumpkin so you might as well set the fruit in the shadiest part of the patch. Grow the "salad part in the sunniest.

11/29/2012 3:36:08 PM

Sourthern Utah

thats great advise.. huffs, as i have grown in them as well,,

11/29/2012 3:42:19 PM

Central Illinois

I wasnt sure which would be the healthiest leaves or the ones putting the most work into the pumpkin during the later parts of the year

11/29/2012 4:01:14 PM

canal winchester ohio

The leaves that grow in the shaded area will be a lot taller and wider than the ones that are in full sun and in turn will take the most damage from a pop up storm. Concentrate on a full plant in the sunniest area & keeping them healthy all season ( it can be done.)

11/29/2012 4:13:46 PM

Central Illinois

OK thanks for the help, my new spot should be good soil, Ive been dumping grass clippings, hickory nuts and their hulls there for 20 some years,and now the manure.

11/29/2012 4:24:00 PM

Johnston, Iowa

Baitman I hope its not "too late", but I found that the hickory nuts/shells may have a negative effect on your soil similar to walnuts (allelopathy).


Allelopathy
A phenomenon where a dominant plant emits a juglone toxin through the shell of its fruit, roots or leaves, allelopathy is practiced most notably by black walnut trees, and less aggressively by hickories. The toxin in the nutshells of these trees is absorbed into the soil and prevents other trees and competing plants from taking root in the immediate area. It is a self-preservation technique. Some plants, like most grasses, are unaffected by the toxin, and coexist peacefully with the trees. For this reason, the shells of these nuts should never be placed on the compost pile where they may eventually end up in the garden or flower pots.

12/4/2012 3:52:45 PM

Central Illinois

I just read up on this ,the info I found said that it was just the walnut trees that did this not the hickory. I will see if i can find that article again. Thanks maybe I need to find more info.

12/4/2012 4:57:35 PM

Central Illinois

Here's some info I found

Walnuts,are members of the Juglans family and produce a growth suppressijng compound called juglone that will inhibit competing plant growth. Hickories are members of the Carya family and do not produce a growth inhibiting compound.

12/5/2012 7:28:41 AM