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Eddyz@efirehose.net

Looking to anyone that has had success at getting old seeds to pop. Hints, methods etc.
I've been testing different methods, and so far, I've popped 1995 seeds at a rate of 6 out of 10 using an egg incubator, but would like to know if removing the seed coat would help
Eddy

3/25/2008 10:40:25 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Try searching for the formula that includes potassium nitrate & GA3. I had posted it here a couple years ago.

3/25/2008 10:56:30 PM

Wallingford,CT

Eddy, although not old , I have germinated seeds from a pumpkin that was culled at day 23. It was necessary to remove the seed coat and then use the wet paper towel/zip lock bag method. They were slow to produce a root, sometimes as long as 4 plus days. Once it started I placed it on top of the soil with only the root in the soil. then covered with clear plastic wrap and place under a desk lamp. the cots were not completely filled when the coats was removed due to being only 23 days. use care if you try to remove the seed coat.

bart

3/26/2008 6:27:12 AM

Eddyz@efirehose.net

Thanks for the many email
Bart, can you email me your phone number please, I'd like to discuss further
Eddy

3/26/2008 10:01:31 AM

Little-TON - Colorado

Eddy when you are done accumulation your info I would like a email, Barry Todd is also wanting to pop a seed that is very old, some selfed Dill seed he has.....very interesting too......Ill be trying a seed thats 13 years old.

WiZ

3/26/2008 10:58:26 AM

Little-TON - Colorado

Bart,

How did that plant turn out?

3/26/2008 10:59:18 AM

Wallingford,CT

the plant was grown with only about 20 ft of main and a single secondary. The fruit was set on the main and grew to 365 pounds. I grew it only for the seeds not competition.

bart

3/26/2008 1:40:00 PM

Sparta, NC

I too am going to try some old seeds 1996. Could you forward the info to me too Eddy? Thanks carlton@skybest.com

3/26/2008 4:25:32 PM

Eddyz@efirehose.net

Sambo
Yes I will no problem,

I'm finging this Gerbalic acid is a must.
Also talked with some Agronomists, and a few have developed a new germination theory, Waiting for a possible experimental package from them.
The incubator is also a move forward, as I can keep the temp within 1/2 a degree. So far I have had the best success at 88.5 degrees F. on older seeds. The new seeds don't care too much, as I've had pretty much equal results from 83 - 90 degrees.
After 90 degrees, they seem to loose moisture too fast. I'm pretty much going with 88-89 degrees.
Eddy

3/27/2008 12:10:30 PM

Indiana

Recommended Germination Books

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139 Lenor Drive,
State College, PA 16801.
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Second Supplement to Seed Germination Theory and Practice
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· Dr. Deno's final studies on germination. Bamboos, garden herbs, Iridaceae and Liliaceae from S. Africa. Australian rushes and sedges are included.

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expect a fascinating first book in an area of crucial importance not only to the seed industry, but to the individual seed collector and saver.

3/27/2008 1:03:44 PM

Indiana

My above post is where I got my GA3 dosage information. I do not recall the page, or dosage, but I believe I tried 0, 250, 500, 750, and 1000 ppm dosages.

I seem to recall the threshold dosage to be between 500 and 750 before the plant was screwed up.

Tom

3/27/2008 1:08:53 PM

Southeast

Marc Sawtelle is a good resource on this subject as well as Tom Beachy.

3/27/2008 2:33:58 PM