From

Location

Message

Date Posted

Grittyville, WA

Looking for ideas on what to plant next year. For me, the older & oranger & bigger seeds interest me. I do have lots of seeds but just curious...

Always looking for good ideas, goal is 1600. I like the idea of using a seed that has a less common lineage to try to support genetic diversity even though this would mean using an older or less proven seed. -Brandon

9/4/2018 4:59:11 PM

Grittyville, WA

Help me pick an interesting seed to try to hit 1600 with thanks!!!

9/4/2018 5:00:51 PM

Massachusetts

I always thought the 1634 Werner from 2010 deserved a bit more attention.

9/4/2018 5:20:19 PM

Eastern Pennsylvania

The 1295 Bailey 2013 I believe.

9/5/2018 12:17:08 PM

Colorado

Anything with a orange 1495 stelts in the cross can meet your criteria.One good cross is 1526 menting.

9/6/2018 12:02:41 AM

Upper Strasburg, PA

I could send you a dozen seeds from a 1230 Daletas x 801 Black I did back in 2006.

9/6/2018 9:27:35 AM

Upper Strasburg, PA

Maybe take a look at the 700 Rodonis too- 772 Poirier x 1385 Jutras

9/6/2018 9:28:29 AM

Germany

Maybe you want to grow a 436 Rupf 2017?
It grow on a 653 Rupf 2011(789 Rupf x 1596 Werner).
I have a 436 Rupf growing in my garden and it tapes now over
600 lbs still growing. Nice orange and shape.
You can look to my diary.
The weights went down a little because many years i did not grow and also i made tha garden smaller in order to plant 3 Trees for apples ect.
Next year i want to reach 1000 lbs.

9/6/2018 12:19:18 PM

Germany

I also have a 1173 Olsen 17 growing.
It is about 100 lbs behind the 436 Rupf.
The 1173 Olsen is 2145 McMullen x 1756 Howell/Jolivette

My Pumpkin growing on the 436 Rupf plant is x 1173 Olsen crossed.

9/6/2018 12:22:04 PM

patch prep add organics build soil key to getting over 1600 more important than what seed used

9/6/2018 1:14:13 PM

Grittyville, WA

Yeah prep work starts now. I may be down to one location on my property next year. One plant. Wish I could do six full size plants... that would make it a lot easier to choose. I've been lucky to be able to plant a lot of plants and nearly every seed I've requested has seen dirt, but I have so many seeds now... more just looking for ideas. Those Werner seeds from 2010 are interesting. Menting cross... yes for sure. It seems like the top growers could probably hit 1600 on just about any seed. me on the other hand... a bit of seed luck may be involved lol??? Thank you all.

9/6/2018 8:41:50 PM

Grittyville, WA

Some of these are Orange x ?

Still the battle between orange and size ? Out of curiosity I ran a trial of a selfed orange x selfed orange and got four orange pumpkins on four different plants. The shapes were not consistent but the color was consistent. Maybe there is hope.

9/6/2018 8:47:32 PM

Grittyville, WA

The really beautiful ones seem to throw average ones part of the time??? Makes me think the genes for really beautiful ones like the 1626 Gantner might be heterozygous or something and hard to isolate that specific gene combination. Getting lucky is part of the fun... but not getting lucky is not.

9/6/2018 8:57:53 PM

Grittyville, WA

Please throw out some more ideas if you know of an interesting dead end for which the seed is available. 1696 Kaminski for example. (I think I have this seed...) But I'm curious to learn about other lineages which are farther out or older.

Unlikely to plant them since I'm cutting back so severely but still curious to know what you're thinking.

9/6/2018 9:05:03 PM

San Diego, Ca.

Look at the 1544 Revier 2009. Has a lot of good genetic in its background.

9/6/2018 9:41:41 PM

Mulino, Oregon

Brandon, my 1586 throws very orange pumpkins and all have weighed very heavy to chart.

9/6/2018 11:41:14 PM

Grittyville, WA

Wish I hadn't killed my 1162 Midthun last year. Thanks Jim. I might put your 1702 up against the 1103 Zaychkowsky. Who knows. 1639.5's did not like the spot they were in. One got genes for lightweight the other for heavy I think... Not sure about color yet. 1472.5 Has been a nice plant. Leaves lasted a long time. Good pumpkin (for us anyhow)... about 400 lbs on about 120 sq ft plant.

9/7/2018 10:09:25 PM

Syracuse, NY

Glenomkins---my 443.5 Gerry this year is showing signs of the 1421.5 Stelts in it that we were wondering about (where would the wartiness show up)---it started out long and low and off-white, then started to get an orange 'freckling' about the shoulders/mostly stem end of the fruit at about 300 lbs., and NOW is going bonkers with a crazy dark green/almost blackish mishmash...i will try to provide a picture tomorrow---it was being watered when i was noticing its beauty marks, lol----eg

9/8/2018 1:28:23 AM

Syracuse, NY

Giant pumpkin plants are like Rubik's Cubes. They are ALL Rubik's Cubes. They probably all come from the factory with each of the sides its own respective color. maybe not. never bought one. we ALL start out with the intention of either starting out with it all jumbled up and getting it back to its original state, or messing it up and then getting it back to its original state. No one intends to start out with it uniform and leave it jumbled up. They all have the same number of squares, sides and are about the same size. UNLESS you have a clue about HOW to get it back to its original state, are you going to get it there? no. Not unless you spend most of your waking hours randomly twisting that thing around and eventually get VERY lucky; UNLESS you apply actual knowledge of HOW to do anything, you will not get done what you want to do. Unless i lived next door to a world-renowned AG grower and was GREAT friends with him, AND did everything HE did to grow an ALSO world-renowned pumpkin of my OWN, I, too, will not get that accomplished, either, UNLESS i actually applied OTHERS' proven knowledge of how to actually do what i wanted to do. I CAN do this, but I, too, look at seeds i apparently have no intention of ever ACTUALLY applying proven knowledge to and then try to grow too many of them and fall by the (weighside) once again and think "Yeah, Man, next year, next year...";

9/8/2018 2:21:10 AM

Syracuse, NY

CONT'D:
my problem is that i never allow ANY of my spaces to go fallow or use a cover crop or devote enough TIME and $$ to each plant, so they end up being the usual 400-500-pounders that sell OK and i maybe break even. In the end, though, i enjoy growing AGs and that is what matters the most(!); Glenomkins, if you and I take ONE seed that we already HAVE and apply EVERYthing to it that we DO know and have just one backup? 1600# should be a piece of cake. well, then there's the soil biology and all of the applied, proven KNOWLEDGE i referred to above...awww, crap!...well, good luck---PS---i have a MASSIVE seed collection. but you have so many seeds. Whatever happened to those 11 out of 11 Gerry seeds---did they die?...eg

9/8/2018 2:21:54 AM

Syracuse, NY

PS---this was supportive RANTING, not BITCHING, and is and was to be taken as a reminder, to myself mostly, of what i'm thinking at this time of year as the season's end approaches. eg

9/8/2018 2:33:36 AM

Grittyville, WA

Hey Eric I got one perfectly controlled cross. I will be able to get the seeds and make them available to run the F2 generation.

I'll let you know how in detail how they did at the end of the season. After many aborts (tried to improve the soil but it was still abysmal... worse than I hoped). I've resigned myself to just the one perfectly controlled cross. Only 100 lbs or so but should give a chance at a warty kin in the F2. There is still something wrong with the soil in that area. Good to hear from you.

9/8/2018 5:57:51 AM

Syracuse, NY

sure, you too----and i have not YET taken a pic of the 443.5, but i will---i had another seed i finally got to try this year, my 188 from like '10 and another my 301.5 from like '05.
both are of orange interest and the 301.5 is (677 Catapano (767 Catapano X 801.5 Stelts) X 689.5 Sandercock (a selfed 869.5 Calai)) so, orange genes everywhere, lol---eric g

9/8/2018 3:44:05 PM

Wallingford,CT

Don, don't let all those secrets out of the bag, you'l kill the seed auctions. lol

9/8/2018 5:21:28 PM

Grittyville, WA

Cmon Bart weak growers like myself need a genius to tell us how in-the-dark we are!!!

9/8/2018 6:39:21 PM

Grittyville, WA

I could probably grow six plants in six spots in the time I will spend overthinking what to grow in one spot.

9/8/2018 6:58:50 PM

Asgsdg

[url=http://khkyw.com/sitemap.php/]Sharing news from other countries[/url]

11/3/2018 3:30:39 AM

Asgsdg

<a href="http://khkyw.com/sitemap.php" target=_blank">Sharing news from other countries</a>

11/3/2018 3:31:12 AM

Grittyville, WA

Not going to that link sorry looks like spam

11/3/2018 4:29:28 AM

Ct

I have this one to try. an origianal big orange
1610 lieber 2010

Pumpkin fanatic has its pictures. I could not get the link to copy over

12/25/2018 8:16:05 AM