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That State Up North

The question is up. Lets look at Glenn's diary, and debate what a true green squash is, and get some consensus in print.

9/14/2006 7:33:32 PM

Wallingford,CT

that question was settled years ago............it finally forced the hand of the GPC to change the pumpkin color rule.

9/14/2006 7:52:18 PM

Garden State Pumpkins

Think G' s pictures sum it up pretty well...starts green..is green at thirty days..and stays green..thats a true squash...I also believe that G's pictures show that a squash may,,or will, have some separation of color..they are not all solid dark green..but never show orange.

9/15/2006 6:12:52 PM

Napa Valley, CA

starts green.......stays green

9/15/2006 11:08:10 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

They're all squash. But we only admit it when there is no trace of orange.

9/16/2006 12:24:59 AM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

The rest of the time we lie.

9/16/2006 12:25:46 AM

Deer Park WA

True all AG soft stems are technically "squash" we have as a close nit group internally created orange V.S green rules which makes us united in growing the Atlantic Giant variety.

9/16/2006 1:38:46 AM

President - GPC

So why dont we change it to GSC.............................Giant Squash CommonWealth?

10/26/2006 2:33:15 PM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

Because people will not come to see a giant squash...

10/27/2006 9:38:42 AM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

From the GPC rules:

Article III Color Requirements and Prize Money

1) Heaviest official fruit wins- all pumpkins and squash will be weighed in one category with the heaviest fruit winning.

A)Squash will be classified as follows- 100% of the following colours or colour combinations green, blue, and gray. The surface area of the fruit as grown in the garden, not including the portion that was in contact with, or close proximity to the ground. This area will include the area between the ribs, around the stem, and the blossom end. This will not include any netting(cantaloping) or any discoloration caused by the close proximity to, or the area on the ground.

B) Pumpkins will be all fruit not classified as squash.

C) To be eligible for additional recognition for solid color pumpkins the fruit must be, 100% of the following colours or colour combinations orange, red, yellow, and salmon. The surface area will be judged by the same rule as stated in paragraph A.

D) The Executive Committee will take a stance on rewarding the solid color 100% for pumpkins and squash as defined above in order to reward the growers who preserve solid colors of fruit.

10/27/2006 3:46:13 PM

Deer Park WA

Thanks Tremor... Going "Green" in 07 again with a 50/50 split Ogrange-Green in the well rested main patch. Got a little competition bet going with Dani over Genetics V.S Determination!

...Gerry

10/27/2006 11:09:57 PM

Cornwall UK.(50N 5W)300ft.

This is stating the obvious,but the GPC rules don't say anything about it starting off green.
What do the true green purists think about that?

I'm going to hide under the table now.

Mark

10/28/2006 7:17:24 AM

Long Island,New York

Admittedly more people would stop at a place that had a Giant Pumpkin Contest sign than a place that had a Giant Squash Contest sign. They pay more money to buy them too. However....as pretty much everyone who has grown and shown can attest to...the greenies are attention getters. (now would be a good time to tell us how the people liked your greenie this year at the show!)People love a good colored squash.The attention the squash get just irritates the blobular,icky-colored pumpkin growers so much they trash the greenies...lol.(blobular and icky= the fruits, not the growers)( in most cases anyway).
It is not unusual to start out yellow or off-white and then change to green. Generally speaking green at day 30 is a key to the final color....but.....anyone who says we know all about color is wrong...they don't know much. Even the new "tru-green" classifications are not likely founded in real science and are likely frivilous botanically.

10/28/2006 8:54:36 AM

Deer Park WA

all our "squash" have started out pea green and stayed that way, in fact they got darker as they matured. Glenn has a good point folks are as amazed at the beauty of a greenie as they are of the orange ones. Big is Big....

10/28/2006 10:46:09 PM

Covington, WA

Am I the only one to notice that the squash generally have a much nicer shape than the pumpkins? Maybe that's an observation for another thread. The squash I've seen and grown though usually have a much nicer shape. Not as many flat blobs and cowpies.

11/8/2006 1:39:21 AM