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Grittyville, WA

I wouldnt draw too many conclusions about the growing medium just from the cotyledons. There are nutrient reserves in the seed so its hard to tell much. Can you post a pic after the first leaves are out?

2/25/2025 8:25:47 PM

Syracuse, NY

Sure. I'm just messing around with what I'd do anyway and have done before butt maybe didn't exemplify. As a rock thrown straight up, it has to come down (Unless you are a really great shot and there's a ledge up there, lol) and that's where any fertilizer additions had better be already in place.
I just figure 'Hey, what's good for the Goose...' and I'm turning out all right. (Arms flailing and eyes blinking at different speeds, lol!) eg
PS---Probably still some leftover MG and NOT any multivitamin in the mix before adding the MV.
MG, MV, oh...MI Crazy? Yup.

2/26/2025 12:24:23 AM

Syracuse, NY

PS-PS - This was really to show the leggy mamas and once they have reached their limit as to how long they can GET, the next leaf and any available stalk will try to further get to the light, so, by allowing this and burying it up to their necks, they technically won't be leggy once Patch Placement is near. The only drawback is that the roots are FAR more spiraled and so on, butt most growers have that happening anyway. There used to be a 10-14-day limit on seedling-to-patch duration. eg

2/26/2025 12:29:50 AM

Grittyville, WA

Ok guess I dont understand the test, but carry on... :)

ps Vitamin b12 has cobalt... I learned that when researching cobalt. I dismissed the idea of feeding b12 to the plants because even at only .5 ppm its much cheaper to buy cobalt.

Well, I hope you learn something from your experiments, I will butt out and just await the 3k result (or 300 lb field kin?).

2/26/2025 6:28:53 AM

Syracuse, NY

I didn't tell all a yous what the experiment was and I may have made it 'for' something on the fly. I had been jibbering about my FPs a week ago to Aurum pumpkin and I wanted to start a few of them/test their virility, since I had brought them up (lol). The cups I use (and some others, for WHAT reason they have this, including McDonald's soda ones, I dunno why - a shock absorber/get cups apart easier) have a ridge around the bottom that contains the roots under a ledge, so, they see an unending 'maze' and go 'round and 'round (RATT) - I wonder if they make some types of thread in this way. They were 'free' from work, so...Well, yeah, carrying on.
eg

[Last edit: 02/26/25 7:56:28 AM]

2/26/2025 7:52:48 AM

Syracuse, NY

Floppy now, they have become uncomfortably numb, so, prolly the Man-Vite was a little strong, lol---Well, I added a lot of wa-wa to the mix to dilute the offending overage and Wheel C* (Axle A, Bearing B...)
*what happens! eg

2/28/2025 6:15:10 AM

Grittyville, WA

Break out the clean water and h202, they'll perk back up.

2/28/2025 12:14:33 PM

Syracuse, NY

H2O2 turns into water after a short time, depending on how much 'work' there is for it to do. My short answer to no real question is that it foams up the SS Mix due to its many inhabitants and in a 1/4 hour or so, it is like puffy brownie batter and very nice to have a seed ALREADY 2-4 HOURS H2O2'd, lol, or SIMULTANEOUSLY, now-H2O2ing to put into it, thereby sterilizing its environment and the seed will be VERY- or somewhat-sterilized also. I did use three seeds - two from 2001 or so and one was my 236 '17 (1007 Brown X 2145 McMullen) - Any seed-triers out there? I gotta give that seed my ALL this year! Ahem---The 236 sprouted just fine in a few days like normal butt the Ancient Ones did not. I watered the 236 with H2O2 again (OMG!) and that killed it, but it did grow fine meanwhile, SO, planting INTO H2O2-enhanced Mix is fine, butt the SS Mix is also very 'airy' and prone to collapse/shrinkage upon even normal watering. You win, you lose, I guess. Further experiments/comments someday soon. eric g

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2/28/2025 1:33:27 PM

Grittyville, WA

Oh. Bummer about the older seeds. Yeah from age 5 to 10 the germ. drops a lot.

Rarely they will still germ at 15 years...? Not sure I remember anyone germinating a 20+ year seed, but maybe someone has.

[Last edit: 02/28/25 6:58:44 PM]

2/28/2025 6:57:16 PM

Syracuse, NY

Ummm, barely the 1007 Brown in '17 and until last year, my 301.5 from '05 was a popper. That is sad because it grew the shapeliest all-around fruits I knew of of my own and I did not grow them every year until its time was up; I always think I'm gonna be able to get anything to sprout and that's prolly why I do all the seed experiments, lol. You, (well, I) know how it is. If you can't grow 'em, at least sow 'em, lol---eg

2/28/2025 11:40:42 PM

Grittyville, WA

The oldest in my collection are from '07. I should see if they will sprout.

3/1/2025 12:17:35 AM