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I have seen alot of lathargic(sp) light brown Jap beatles that havent taken their full color yet around the bottom of my hoop-house,they seem to be mostly around the plastic on the outside(in the ground),Any one see these yet? Im not sure if my chemical spray got them and they are dying,or if they are just now starting to come out of the ground. I spray about 5 days ago. what ya think?

Brooks

5/9/2005 7:51:49 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Lethargic because you fooled them into emerging early with the warmth of the hoophouse. They shouldn't be out for many more weeks.

Light brown sounds more like some Oriental garden beetles.

No matter. You need to kill them before they eat your plants regardless. Rather than chance burning young plants with strong insecticide, can you just catch & squish them?

5/9/2005 9:30:00 PM

Ohio

Steve,

I have been killing them by squshing them, but when i find them ,there isnt just one,more like 5 to 10 in a spot,I never had these last year,I have tilled about 4 or 5 times in the last 2 months,hopefully I killed most of them tilling in the cold weather,How deep do these things go Steve? They hatching from eggs in the soil or do they dig down deep before winter?

5/9/2005 11:08:07 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

There are no longer any insecticides left for use in a vegetable garden from a garden center that controls grubs & pupae. Diazinon used to work on the late feeders but not the non=eating pupal stage.

Eggs are lain by adult beetles in Aug-Sept. Hatch in 10-21 days. Eat roots through 2 molts. After the third instar (big grub) stage, frosts send the grubs deep below the soils frost line. Warm spring weather (your hoop houses) draw them up for a final feeding frenzy. Then the grub turns into a Pupae which molts into a beetle.

It would be illegal for me to recommend Dylox (6.2% Triclorfon) so I won't. If you broke the law & used Dylox at 3 lbs per 1000 sq ft & wtaered it in, the Dlox would soak into the skin of BOTH grubs & pupae for a period of 10 days killing all in 24 hours.

Of course this solution is illegal so I'm not recommending it.

5/10/2005 5:59:34 AM

Www.extremepumpkinstore.com

Just for educational purpose, where could one find this if he was interested in reading the lable?

5/10/2005 6:50:08 AM

Ohio

lol

5/10/2005 7:27:32 AM

Billerica,Massachusetts

light brown = masked chafer beetles.

5/10/2005 8:17:30 AM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

I was thinking the same thing Glenn.

5/10/2005 9:39:45 AM

Montoursville, PA

Also not labeled for grubs in the garden is a product that works well on lawns. I think it may be called Grub-X which I have heard some say is Merit wearing a Halloween Mask. Some have said these products work very well for up to sixty days when applied properly to lawns.

I do know if you get the grubs the moles food chain will have been broken. They will go screw up the neighbors lawn or starve in your's.

A non poison product that I use is Milky Spore Disease. It is not a product to use when adults are the issue. It kills all white grubs and keeps on doing so for many years. My last application has lasted more than ten years.

5/10/2005 10:12:41 AM

Ohio

I searched and found out what kind of beetle I have,


''Asiatic Garden Beetle''
Asiastic garden beetles are less than one-half inch long and cinnamon in color; they have an iridescent sheen in the sunlight. They are attracted to porch lights on summer nights and feed at night, chewing irregular holes in many different plants. During the day, they rest in the soil.


Imidacloprid is by far the outstanding white grub material for homeowners . It is environmentally soft, can be used at a low rate, and is effective against all grubs (although less effective against Asiatic garden beetle).

5/10/2005 2:59:37 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Depends on the color. Orientals are a tannish buff beige color. Chafers run a reddish mahogany sort of brown. Wjile geared more for ornamental pests, our website offers a good image of all mentioned scarab beetles here:

http://www.lesco.com/default.aspx?PageID=53&GroupID=1&GroupName=Insect+Reference

For the illegal Dylox label you can look here:

http://www.cdms.net/ldat/ld14B000.pdf

Bayer also sells the same stuff for consumer use as "Bayer 24 Hour Grub Control" in a smaller bag & it is the exact same strength. Find all the product information here:

http://www.bayeradvanced.com/lawn/products/details.cfm?id=9

The actual species of grub makes little difference since the control strategy that I'm NOT recommending will remain the same regardless.

It's a good thing we don't eat these things that's all I can say.

5/10/2005 10:40:08 PM

Butler, Ohio

I found a few dead june bugs in my hoophouses already. Is that the same thing as the bug yer talkin about Brooks? Hit the whole area with a light dose of Ortho Max. Bye bye Junebugs.

5/11/2005 8:48:10 PM

Ohio

I just found some in my outter window sills on my house too. They must be attacted to the light like Tremor said,but why are they lethargic on my window sills too? They had to fly there,wonder why they cant fly off?? There is about 10 of em on their backs moving real slow. Weird huh?

Midnight,I think the other name for em is June bugs, not sure though.

Brooks

5/11/2005 11:41:52 PM

Oz

little vacume cleaner

5/15/2005 10:17:59 AM