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I have been using a lot of weed killer in the patch lately. I know it shouldnt have any effect on the soil, but when I go to bury my vines in a few weeks, anyone think there will be any poison left that could harm the plant?
Been using Ortho and Round Up weed and grass killer.
Thanks for any info!

David

7/1/2005 3:49:54 PM

Picton,ON (j.vincent@xplornet.ca)

Roundup is totally deactivated when it hits soil. I saw a study once that showed it actually improved microbial activity in soils. I am not famillier with "Ortho". Please post the active ingrediant.
John

7/2/2005 7:02:37 AM

Oz

Add "clean soil" on top of your existing soil.
The more space between a "organic" living thing and oil sludge death,the better.

7/2/2005 10:59:29 AM

Chico, Ca

oil sludge death? round up is mainly salts.... don't know where you get that from......if the ortho has 2-4D in it then it is a synthetic auxin derivative.not an oil.

we dont import new soil to cover vines after we use round up
and haven't had any problems. the ortho product might be another story depending on the ingredients... read the instructions and look for information on new planting in treated areas. that would be similar to trying to bury vines.

7/2/2005 12:28:43 PM

Somers, CT

Most OTC vegetation killers are gone by the first rainstorm. Just be careful to keep it away from the plants. Tremor would be able to elaborate.

7/2/2005 9:50:37 PM

Oz

OK salts,,,,
The more space inbetween the plant and any harsh soil the better.

7/2/2005 11:56:35 PM

Deer Park WA

GreenPeace is rolling over in their "perspective" graves He,he.he..

7/3/2005 3:14:30 AM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Just one word.....GLYPHOSATE.....Use none other & we're fine. Don't pay any attention to the "Trade names" since Glyphosate is now off-patent & every other manufacturer is selling it as something else. The trouble is that some contain other performance enhancers that CAN persist in some situations.

Avoid all other active ingredients & no harm to the soil will result.

7/3/2005 9:16:50 AM

Garden

Thanks for all the info. Based on Tremors comment, I'm going to stick with the Ortho product-

Active ingredients:
Glyphosate, isopropylamine salts 18%


The other contains 2,4-Ddimethylamine salt 7.59%

7/3/2005 3:36:18 PM

Oz

performance enhancers,,,,what are these(names),,and how do they do what they do.
How long do they stay in the soil?
Is runoff the expected way these enhancers leave the soil?
Sorry to grill you TREMOR.

Just so anyone knows,,,
My hometown has superfund sites.covered in clay,flushed and burned off
Some frome salts of every type.
Some from oils of every type.
Some they filled and built houses in/on.

Here in Tennessee there are runoff ponds that cattails will not grow in(thats real bad).

Im not trying to save the world,,,
just trying too not pollute any OF GODS land,
that I am steward of.

7/3/2005 11:37:25 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

The 2,4-D that David found is an example. Another I saw recently also contained Surflan (Oryzalin) to keep weeds from coming back. Neither is welcome in our patches if competition grade growing is desired.

We have a Walmart/Home Depot/Shaws built on a Bentonite (clay) capped Superfund. I'm still surprised the Shaw's folks are allowed to sell groceries there. Benzene among other things. Not from ag chemicals. Brake lining plant was there.

7/3/2005 11:48:04 PM