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Commack, NY

Look in my diary for some pics. Any ideas? i'll be working with a lab hopefully this week, but i was wondering if any of you guys more experienced with disease issues might have some idea?

thanks
Scott

8/7/2005 1:57:36 PM

Roselle, IL GJGEM@sbcglobal.net

Looks a lot like gummy stem blight. I had the same stuff two years ago.

8/7/2005 2:39:21 PM

Mastic Beach, New York

Scott... i have the same thing..look at my diary..where the vines were buried they all rotted too .it's a first for me

8/7/2005 2:41:13 PM

Western NY

just checked the pics. it's not a good sign. the way the vines look, i would almost say bacterial wilt, but that will progress through a plant, not hit random leaves (from what i understand / have seen). the white foamy stuff is what concerns me. i lost a stump to that last year, but that was my fault from leaving the hose run on the stump for too long.

good luck, and keep us updated.

8/7/2005 2:41:38 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Scott,

Call me.

Gummy Stem Blight is a brownish ooze.

Gummy Stem Blight:
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/cucurbit/stem/17.4.html

The white foamy stuff is Sclerotinia Stem Blight aka "White Mold".

Sclerotinia (bad picture):
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/cucurbit/stem/21.1.html

This is turning into an epedemic this year but we have the answer if you move fast.

Steve

8/7/2005 2:46:59 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Scott,

Here is how bad it can be:

http://www.bigpumpkins.com/DisplayPhoto.asp?pid=2187

8/8/2005 12:31:16 AM

Commack, NY

oh i feel much better now! LOL

still doing consistant daily gains pretty much as much as they were (i havent watered since i found it)even after the scraping. We'll see what happens after the lab. im secretly hoping for bacterial wilt! LMAO

8/8/2005 7:05:48 AM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

Are you still going to the lab tomorrow?

8/8/2005 7:56:38 PM

Commack, NY

i called the lab, basically its a joke. the guy told me that he would look at it under a microscope, and take a guess as to what it is. I dont have time for guessing. Im overnighting a sample tomorrow so we should know in a couple of days.

8/8/2005 8:23:04 PM

Long Island,New York

What lab was gonna guess?

8/8/2005 10:13:57 PM

Menomonie, WI (mail@gr8pumpkin.net)

What kind of scope was he going to use. I use an electron microscope that can give you a percentage of all elements. So when he says he will put it under the scope. He might know what he is doing.

8/8/2005 10:19:36 PM

Commack, NY

Linus......he very well might know what he's doing, but he actually said that he would "take a guess". That's not good enough for me. i need confirmation of the pathogen so that i can correct it. If his guess is wrong, and i try and correct for what he "thinks" it is, i could be ignoring the real problem.

8/9/2005 8:42:38 AM

Long Island,New York

What lab was gonna guess?

8/9/2005 2:08:06 PM

Commack, NY

The eisenhour(sp) walk in lab

8/9/2005 6:48:36 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

I would call them & ask for a supervisor. Is this lab associated with Cornell?

8/9/2005 7:47:39 PM

Commack, NY

well either way, my comfort level is pretty well shot, so i wont be dealing with them.

8/9/2005 7:50:46 PM

Long Island,New York

Geez...I got Dr. Tamson Yeh, PhD....she was pretty good.

8/9/2005 8:35:57 PM

Commack, NY

As a matter of fact, i used you as an example and said that you walked in and got a diagnosis. I was told that they are not equipped to make an exact, positive diagnosis. The best that they can do is look at it under a microscope and "take a guess" as to what it might be.

8/10/2005 7:09:07 AM

Garden State Pumpkins

Yikes!! Fresh Samples shouldn't be guessed at...come on coulda done that by looking at the plant while it was still in the garden...If you're paying you want to know!!!!Good Luck Scotty...Need some of those italian Geckos to watch your garden!!!! I know that's not funny..but hang in there bud!!! Chuck

8/10/2005 9:12:05 PM

Ctpumpkin@optonline.net

If the staff is competent & a slide is made from fresh live diseased plant material then the pathologists findings are not a guess unless said pathologist is untrained or unexperienced. Who works at this place, interns or political appointments? No PhDs that's for sure.

You LI boys need a real lab. The people at this lab are idiots.

8/10/2005 10:32:40 PM

Commack, NY

i think chuck is right! i need those Italian Wall Lizards. now how am i going to catch them....

8/10/2005 11:37:09 PM